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  • Dave2002
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    • Dec 2010
    • 18034

    Apple - Preview - "Hidden" features

    I have been exploring drawing packages again.

    One of my long standing complaints about Apple is that the company effectively abandoned some useful drawing and painting packages which were available up to the time that MacOS moved on beyond Snow Leopard.
    When I first encountered those software tools - way back in the days of ClarisWorks, then AppleWorks, I really didn't like them much. Why would I have used those in preference to Word and the offerings from MicroSoft?
    Then I discovered that I could do simple graphics quickly, and because I wanted/needed to do diagrams on a day to day basis I got to use those tools. I could knock up a diagram to show to others within minutes, without having to worry about people saying "we can't read your writing, you'd not drawn it right, etc".

    I was still using those tools from time to time up to a year or two back, but recently I went back to see if they still work on my old iMac. They do.

    I spent a lot of time trying to find out whether there were other tools - perhaps better - which would do the same kind of job - and up to now I have to say that i haven't really found anything quite as quick and almost intuitive.
    I would definitely have switched to any good modern replacement tool, but in over a decade I've not found one. Newer tools may be better in terms of the quality of output, but in terms of learning and quick ease of use, all have failed for me.

    One problem now with the early tools is that they produce raster output - and on the latest computers this is just not really the kind of quality we seem to expect nowadays. Vector graphics tools can produce better results - but the downside is that one has to know how to use them. Graphic artists who use computers a lot will take this for granted, but the rest of us perhaps won't. There are good vector graphics tools which can be used to produce high quality diagrams, but often a problem is that one has to create the basic units - before starting to make a diagram.

    Anyway, I've just discovered this article - https://setapp.com/how-to/paint-for-mac which mentions that inside Apple Preview there is a simple drawing/painting tool. I tried this out, and to my surprise some of the features of the old tools are indeed embedded within Preview - and some of the keyboard shortcuts for the earlier - now pretty much defunct and obsolete - programs still work. There may be features which don't work - or don't work as well as in the older programs - but it definitely looks as though many of the features of the older programs are now hidden away in Preview - but can still be used by anyone who wants to try.
  • french frank
    Administrator/Moderator
    • Feb 2007
    • 30447

    #2
    Well, that's passed a few entertaining minutes!
    It isn't given us to know those rare moments when people are wide open and the lightest touch can wither or heal. A moment too late and we can never reach them any more in this world.

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    • Dave2002
      Full Member
      • Dec 2010
      • 18034

      #3
      Originally posted by french frank View Post
      Well, that's passed a few entertaining minutes!
      So how many stick men did you make?

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      • french frank
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        • Feb 2007
        • 30447

        #4
        Originally posted by Dave2002 View Post
        So how many stick men did you make?
        I didn't find that. Just how to make speech bubbles, arrows, hexagons. And then move them when they appeared on top of each other.
        It isn't given us to know those rare moments when people are wide open and the lightest touch can wither or heal. A moment too late and we can never reach them any more in this world.

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        • Dave2002
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          • Dec 2010
          • 18034

          #5
          Originally posted by french frank View Post
          I didn't find that. Just how to make speech bubbles, arrows, hexagons. And then move them when they appeared on top of each other.
          OK. I think that CMD-G glues things together so you can easily make a stick man, then replicate a few times and then you have an army!

          I'm not sure that it's quite the same as the old Appleworks, but there are similarities. I think also it can do larger images as the fonts seem to work quite well. Not sure if they are raster or vector, but overall the results are OK.

          If you want to have more fun try FireAlpaca - also a freebie. See http://firealpaca.com/ That's got some really nice features.

          There's a very similar tool called Medibang - also free - but the brushes which come with that one aren't so much fun - https://medibangpaint.com/en/app-download/ - and you might have to learn Japanese or Chinese to figure out the manual.

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          • Anastasius
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            • Mar 2015
            • 1860

            #6
            I'm missing something here. Seems to me that all that that icon does is pull down the existing toolbar that is already available under Tools ?
            Fewer Smart things. More smart people.

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            • french frank
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              • Feb 2007
              • 30447

              #7
              Originally posted by Anastasius View Post
              I'm missing something here. Seems to me that all that that icon does is pull down the existing toolbar that is already available under Tools ?
              Where is the Preview Tools toolbar? I have a Tools dropdown menu which has some of the things in the Preview Markup toolbar, but not all.
              It isn't given us to know those rare moments when people are wide open and the lightest touch can wither or heal. A moment too late and we can never reach them any more in this world.

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              • Dave2002
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                • Dec 2010
                • 18034

                #8
                Originally posted by french frank View Post
                Where is the Preview Tools toolbar? I have a Tools dropdown menu which has some of the things in the Preview Markup toolbar, but not all.
                I think there's a drop down called Annotate under tools, but it doesn't give access to all the features in the drawing toolbar - which allows colour changes and style changes for lines - dotted lines, arrows etc. Plus there's no guidance re what keyboard shortcuts work - or not.

                This page has some information - https://support.apple.com/en-gb/guid...w/prvw1501/mac

                Some of the features don't work if the file being edited or annotated is a graphics file. Getting results is more likely to work by trying this on top of a PDF file - which could of course be blank.

                If several shapes - including lines - are selected they can be grouped by CMD-G. In this small environment CMD-D to duplicate doesn't seem to work, but CMD-C (Copy) followed by CMD-V (Paste) does - and pastes the copy on top of the original - so it's not very visible. It can then be selected and moved around. The Flip Horizontal and Flip Vertical commands from the Tools menu should work, as well as the Rotates - though they only work in 90 degree steps.

                There are undoubtedly better tools, but for quick results - for example a block diagram - or even an Organisation Chart - this could work well enough. Inkscape which works with SVG files might be a better option for some people - though I'd have to remind myself how it works. For people who still have access to a working version of MS Office, the drawing tools in Powerpoint are quite good because they can use linked connectors, so moving one object updates the links.

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                • french frank
                  Administrator/Moderator
                  • Feb 2007
                  • 30447

                  #9
                  Originally posted by Dave2002 View Post
                  I think there's a drop down called Annotate under tools, but it doesn't give access to all the features in the drawing toolbar - which allows colour changes and style changes for lines - dotted lines, arrows etc. Plus there's no guidance re what keyboard shortcuts work - or not.
                  That's right. I looked at Annotate but having to go to a dropdown item each time is less convenient than having the "Markup" toolbar with all the options immediately available.

                  Originally posted by Dave2002 View Post
                  This page has some information - https://support.apple.com/en-gb/guid...w/prvw1501/mac

                  Some of the features don't work if the file being edited or annotated is a graphics file. Getting results is more likely to work by trying this on top of a PDF file - which could of course be blank.
                  Yes, when I was mucking about I just created a blank png file to work on.

                  Originally posted by Dave2002 View Post
                  There are undoubtedly better tools, but for quick results - for example a block diagram - or even an Organisation Chart - this could work well enough.
                  I gathered it was just an equivalent to MS Paint.
                  It isn't given us to know those rare moments when people are wide open and the lightest touch can wither or heal. A moment too late and we can never reach them any more in this world.

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                  • Anastasius
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                    • Mar 2015
                    • 1860

                    #10
                    Originally posted by french frank View Post
                    That's right. I looked at Annotate but having to go to a dropdown item each time is less convenient than having the "Markup" toolbar with all the options immediately available.

                    ......
                    As soon as I select something in Annotate then the Markup toolbar automatically appears.
                    Fewer Smart things. More smart people.

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                    • french frank
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                      • Feb 2007
                      • 30447

                      #11
                      Originally posted by Anastasius View Post
                      As soon as I select something in Annotate then the Markup toolbar automatically appears.
                      Not for me. Click on Annotate and I get a flyout menu with a few options, not a toolbar in the Preview window.
                      It isn't given us to know those rare moments when people are wide open and the lightest touch can wither or heal. A moment too late and we can never reach them any more in this world.

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