Yet another privacy technical problem - partly due to "Lockdown" (aka **** Apple!)

[Count Boso]

So what would YOU call the food formerly known as vegan cheese?

You could probably get away with calling it frommidge, as fromage/formaggio only derives from the shape, or the mould in which it's made . Whereas cheese comes from casein which is milk derived. Putative Latin *caseum formaticum.

[MrGongGong]

So what would YOU call the food formerly known as vegan cheese?

I have found homeopathic(?) calendula lotion very good for cuts and abrasions. Not sure about the rest, but I would try it before passing judgement.
Maybe you could find inspiration from a dram of your special Talisker?

I did a load of beeswax processing last weekend.
Melting down old comb and cleaning it up.
Afterwards my hands were soft and flexible
I could have pretended that it was because of the single molecule of nettle leaf that was on one of next doors sheep but undetectable even with an electron microscope.
BUT I would probably think it had more to do with the beeswax

The dangerous thing about the woo around the fraud that is homeopathy is that people who are REALLY ill will think that eating a sugar pill will stop them getting Malaria or other full-on illnesses including the current virus.

By all means do what you like BUT some people really do need protecting from dangerous bullshit.

[Dave2002]

The dangerous thing about the woo around the fraud that is homeopathy is that people who are REALLY ill will think that eating a sugar pill will stop them getting Malaria or other full-on illnesses including the current virus.

By all means do what you like BUT some people really do need protecting from dangerous bullshit.

Homeopathy is a complete fraud - but others can believe what they like.

I have heard of two incidents regarding drugs. One was a sample drug which was sent for analysis - possibly by a drug squad in Africa. It was known to have been made in a witch doctor's hut. Surprisingly it was very high purity, and would have done whatever it was supposed to have been for.

The other was a supply of anti-malarial drugs sent to a mining company in Malawi (or maybe Mali). The route was genuine, and checked out all the way. Nothing apparently wrong with the drugs, correct documentation, known suppliers etc. Howewever, some bad guys must have got into the supply chain somehow, as they were ineffective. I don't know if people died, but that could well have been the outcome.

If homeopathy persuades people to take substances which are ineffective against real diseases, it should be stamped out.

[Dave2002]

I knew this would keep coming back to bite ....

I knew this problem of sending out newsletters wouldn't go away. What an absolute pain.

Today, as far as I can see, things were done in exactly - or a very similar way - to last time - which worked. This time it looks like all the recipients are blocked. That's even by using Gmail, in a web browser, and copying and pasting the recipient list into the bcc box.

There is this "helpful" page, which comes up in Google/Gmail - https://support.google.com/mail/thread/2372914

So now we have to figure out even more wretched software in order to send out a monthly newsletter - possibly using MailChimp.

Sometimes - perhaps very frequently - one wonders who ever "designed" the Internet. Aren't any other groups which are now being forced to communicate in different ways discovering these problems too?

[Beresford]

I knew this problem of sending out newsletters wouldn't go away.
Today, as far as I can see, things were done in exactly - or a very similar way - to last time - which worked. This time it looks like all the recipients are blocked. ?

When I had this problem with a newsletter, trial + error showed that my server would only accept 50 emails at once, then another 50 some 15-20 minutes later. I always put my own address at the end of any group, to confirm that it worked. But it won't stop the recipients servers declaring your work to be spam.

[Frances_iom]

But it won't stop the recipients servers declaring your work to be spam.

I presume this list of names has been gathered in agreement with the current GDPR regs ie all recipients have agreed to receive mail from you - if not then you are spamming them - also certain traits in the message format may well trigger a spam warning.
Prior to farcebook + twatter (to which most spammers have turned for easy pickings amongst the great unwashed) then as those into computing from the late 90s onwards know, Spam was a major problem and made email + message boards almost unusable thus most ISPs developed fairly good algorithms to block multiple identical mails - once recognised as a spammer you need to jump thru hoops to regain your reputation

[Dave2002]

I presume this list of names has been gathered in agreement with the current GDPR regs ie all recipients have agreed to receive mail from you - if not then you are spamming them - also certain traits in the message format may well trigger a spam warning.

Indeed. Most of the recipients are grateful for the communications, particularly since other forms of communication are not so practical at the present time. They will all have agreed, and anyone who wants to be removed from the lists will be expunged. We are trying to avoid any accidental sending of unwanted emails, though I fear that sometimes mistakes may happen - but we are trying hard to avoid any such. As far as we know, this has not happened to date.

I don't know whether software systems will interfere with this process again in the coming months, but surely it's not unusual for smallish societies to want to communicate with their members - for example music societies notifying members of upcoming concerts, or subscription renewals - or in the case of the current circumstances - possible indefinite extensions of membership, or possible refunds for concerts which will not now take place.

We could of course spam all the members with information about how to remove themselves from the email lists (together with 1,2 or 3 followup reminders ), but perhaps we will put a note in the next newsletter in case this might become an issue.