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  • Dave2002
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    • Dec 2010
    • 18057

    Apple - Mainstage

    A little while back I stumbled across Mainstage from Apple, which I'd not heard of before. In the end I decided to buy it anyway. Somewhat curiously, much of the interest in this product seems to be in the USA, amongst church goers and church musicians - so-called Worship Music - very strange.

    Like Logic, it isn't so easy to figure out initially, though clearly it probably shares some of the software components and designs. Apple's claim is that it will deliver better performance in "real time" than Logic - though user experiences seem to be variable.. It is supposed to be better for live performances.

    The interface is not an exact match to Logic, but the Channel strips are the same or similar. It does also have software synthesisers built in, including EXS24 and Alchemy. For £30 it now seems a reasonable buy, though whether it would be "safe" to use in a live situation I can't say. Many performers will already be using other systems, from what I've read - most likely Ableton Live.

    Yesterday I managed to overload the my CPU while experimenting with Logic in a play/plaback situation. I should have been able to play the work I was acting on within Mainstage - which may have avoided that CPU overload - though I can't be sure that it would have done. The sound libraries in Mainstage are the same/similar to Logic, so again, arguably, for anyone who doesn't have Logic and wants to perform, Mainstage is a cheap option - though as I've noted the interface is not the same, and figuring out how it all works may be quite tricky.

    There are some very weird things which have been suggested in various videos - some dealing with what seem like arcane effects, carried out in "imaginative", but odd ways. One is so-called side-chaining, which for some reason seems to be of interest in EDM (particularly French?) and also for distorting regular audio. It seems that this technique can be used to feed part of a complex set up to a compressor - which might normally be used on a kick drum to reduce the highest leverls, but rather than doing that a kick drum "track" is set up, fed to a bus and then used to trigger a compressor on other audio. Whether the kick drum sound is then fed back into the final mix is I guess optional.

    The result, when playing a keyboard - say without the kick drum beat sound - is that the "melody" gets distorted as if it were being played on an FM radio when a plane goes overhead - a sort of wah-wah effect. Why anyone would think that's a good or "cool" thing to do I can't imagine, but that's what it does. Afffectively audio gets modulated by another effect, which may or may not itself be fed back into the mix, though it can presumably also be rapidly changed in performance by selecting different beat patterns, or different virtual instruments to trigger the sidechain effects.

    Sidechaining - https://www.musictech.net/tutorials/...n-logic-pro-x/

    https://youtu.be/z0L1RoZX5Ks Using sidechaining in Mainstage

    https://youtu.be/17GDV0X-J6U as above

    https://youtu.be/a9A3CaVFVq4 Using Mainstage with a synth to act as a Vocoder
    MMmm... could give the mic to the vicar to read out his/her sermon
  • MrGongGong
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    • Nov 2010
    • 18357

    #2
    Adrian is into sidechaining

    MaxMSP instrument with graphics tablet and buttons/dials/faders for interactive performance

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    • Dave2002
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      • Dec 2010
      • 18057

      #3
      Originally posted by MrGongGong View Post
      One has to listen on headphones to get the full effect!

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      • Dave2002
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        • Dec 2010
        • 18057

        #4
        Originally posted by MrGongGong View Post
        I've discovered I can do quite similar things to Adrian, certainly with Logic, but probably also with Mainstage as well. It gets to be more fun if several of the in-built synthesisers are deployed.

        The synthesisers are accessible in Mainstage, so that is a relatively cheap way to get some experience with synthesiser twiddling, though the free trial of Logic would also provide that - for a while.

        I saw a bit of an advert video a day or two back - something like 'mau ? - guy with a truly massive array of knobs on what looked like synthesizer kit. I've not spotted it again today, but if it comes round again I'll copy the link and paste it here.

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        • Dave2002
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          • Dec 2010
          • 18057

          #5
          The video I saw was for a course by Deadmau5 - https://deadmau5.com/ Joel Thomas Zimmerman

          Around 1 minute in to the trailer video there are a few shots of him in front of a massive panel of knobs. The lighting effects are quite fun too, though the EDM doesn’t grab me too much.

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