A Very Simple Tuner/CD Player

[Bryn]

Oh I wish there was. The last time I went through this kerfuffle I gave up. You can try asking customer services but they haven't got a clue what you are talking about. In the end I kept ordering and returning different models from John Lewis. I gave up in the end and bought a used model of one that I already had.

I find this very surprising indeed. Over the decades since the CD was introduced I have had many, many CD playing devices and have never come across one that did not have gapless play in standard CD mode. Mp3 mode is a different matter entirely. My current Oppo deck also offers gapless playback of FLACs, but not mp3s or m4a/aac.

[Anastasius]

I find this very surprising indeed. Over the decades since the CD was introduced I have had many, many CD playing devices and have never come across one that did not have gapless play in standard CD mode. Mp3 mode is a different matter entirely. My current Oppo deck also offers gapless playback of FLACs, but not mp3s or m4a/aac.

We're not talking about standalone devices although some do have the same problem. If you look back we are talking about combined CD/radio etc type devices.

We have been here before in 2013

http://www.for3.org/forums/showthread.php?7577-Do-all-modern-CD-players-play-gapless&highlight=cambridge+gapless

[Bryn]

Neither I was only referring to stand alone devices. From minimal cost pocket-size, through a range of ghetto-blaster types to CD and DVD players (both portable and static), none have failed to playback gaplessly. Where the CDs themselves had on-disc 2 second gaps, they were, of course, observed, but that tends not to be the case with 'classical' CDs.

[Anastasius]

Neither I was only referring to stand alone devices. From minimal cost pocket-size, through a range of ghetto-blaster types to CD and DVD players (both portable and static), none have failed to playback gaplessly. Where the CDs themselves had on-disc 2 second gaps, they were, of course, observed, but that tends not to be the case with 'classical' CDs.

As I said, we have been here before and if you read the thread I linked to then you will see that even one of the Cambridge Audio CD separates failed.

[cloughie]

I've said this elsewhere but worth repeating. When looking for CD players especially the combined type then not all of them are suitable for classical music as they insert pauses between tracks. Great especially when listening to opera !

Rather pours cold water on ‘The Firebird’ also!

[ferneyhoughgeliebte]

Rather pours cold water on ‘The Firebird’ also!

... and Heldenleben, the last three movements of the Pastoral, Dark Side of the Moon - or anything that needs continuous playing, but which has sections indexed!

[Bryn]

As I said, we have been here before and if you read the thread I linked to then you will see that even one of the Cambridge Audio CD separates failed.

I have read the thread. It confirms that the overwhelming majority of players offer gapless playback, as called for in the original Philips/Sony spec. On a related matter, when burning CD-Rs it is important to make sure gapless playback is selected. Failing to do so is likely to lead to just the problem you describe. The only Cambridge player I have is a multi-fromat one. It plays pressed CDs without probelm. It is, however, over a decade old and has developed an imability to play CD-Rs. If a player designated as CD compatible does not offer gapless playback it is misusing that designation. The Cambridge Audio Topaz CD5 failed to follow the required Philip/Sony secification for CD players. It should not, therefore, be designated a CD player. It is likely that the sale of this model was a violation of Trades Description legislation. I am surprised that they seem to have got away with it.

[Bryn]

Rather pours cold water on ‘The Firebird’ also!

It was the Rite of Spring which one review of the Cambridge Audio Topaz CD5 mentioned regarding this non-spec player.

[pastoralguy]

For me, one of the great advantages of cd was in being able to listen to Ein Heldenleben without having to turn a tape or Lp over!

[Anastasius]

.... It confirms that the overwhelming majority of players offer gapless playback, as called for in the original Philips/Sony spec......

Therein lies the rub. It is almost impossible to find out if the player/radio combo whatever one has ones eye on is in that majority before buying it.

[Dave2002]

Therein lies the rub. It is almost impossible to find out if the player/radio combo whatever one has ones eye on is in that majority before buying it.

Isn't it possible to take a CD with possible gaps and ask for a demo - if the model is current and in a store, such as John Lewis or Richer Sounds? That would give a very quick result surely.

[Anastasius]

Isn't it possible to take a CD with possible gaps and ask for a demo - if the model is current and in a store, such as John Lewis or Richer Sounds? That would give a very quick result surely.

In theory, yes, but in practice I very much doubt it. You're hoping that the store will have the model that you want and on demo and that's even before you realise that the nearest John Lewis of note is 100 miles way!

[Dave2002]

In theory, yes, but in practice I very much doubt it. You're hoping that the store will have the model that you want and on demo and that's even before you realise that the nearest John Lewis of note is 100 miles way!

My comment assumed that some of us are in range of stores - but I do understand that some aren't. I don't know about the OP.

[cloughie]

In theory, yes, but in practice I very much doubt it. You're hoping that the store will have the model that you want and on demo and that's even before you realise that the nearest John Lewis of note is 100 miles way!

[Anastasius]

My comment assumed that some of us are in range of stores - but I do understand that some aren't. I don't know about the OP.

My comment re store distance was slightly tongue in cheek. You missed the main point that I was making namely lack of availability of the right model for demo'ing.