Turntables. Why so many?

[pastoralguy]

I think this may have been posted before, but just in case....


©The New Yorker

Yes, it has been posted before but thank you for posting again! It was funny then and is funny now.

[cloughie]

I think this may have been posted before, but just in case....


©The New Yorker

Then of course there was Song Of Reproduction by Flanders & Swann:

I had a little gramophone
I wind it round and round
And with a sharpish needle
It made a cheerful sound
And then they amplified it
It was much louder then
And to sharpened fibre needles
to make it soft again
Today for reproduction
I'm as eager as can be
Count me among the faithful fans
of high-fi-de-li-ty
High fidelity
Hi-fi's the thing for me
with an LP disc and an FM set
and a corner reflex cabinet
High frequency range
Complete with autochange
All the highest notes
Like a sharp norflat
The ear can't hear as high as that
Still I ought to please any passing bat
With my high fidelity
Who made this circuit up for you anyway?
You bought it in a shop?!
Ooh what a horrible shoddy job they fobbed you off with
Surprised they let you have it in this room anyway
the acoustics are all wrong
If you raise the ceiling four feet
Put the fireplace from that wall to that wall
You'll still only get the stereophonic effect if you sit at the bottom of that cupboard
I see you've got your negative feedback coupled in with you push-pull input/output
Take that across through ya red-in pick-up to ya tweeter
If you're modding more than 8
You're gonna get 'wow' on ya top
Try to bring that down through your preamp rumble filter through ya woofer
What'll ya get?
Flatter on ya bottom
High fidelity
FFRR for me
I've an opera here that you shan't escape
on miles and miles of recording tape
High decibel gain
Is easy to obtain
With the tone control at a single touch
'Bel Canto' sounds like 'Double Dutch'
Then I never did care for music much
It's the High Fidelity

[Bryn]

Not forgetting:

[Braunschlag]

This is the real new vinyl solution! I want one.

https://maglevaudio.com/pages/how-it-works

[ferneyhoughgeliebte]

This is the real new vinyl solution! I want one.
https://maglevaudio.com/pages/how-it-works

A Hi-Fi/Conjuring Trick combination - who can resist?! (Oh - uppards of $1030; I suppose that means I can! )

AND I still can't play my 78s!

[Braunschlag]

A Hi-Fi/Conjuring Trick combination - who can resist?! (Oh - uppards of $1030; I suppose that means I can! )

AND I still can't play my 78s!

By today's prices it's a snip. I'll lend you my wind up 'picnic' HMV player sometime for those 78s, I'll even fry some bacon for that authentic Gramophone ''sizzle'.

[Braunschlag]

Anyhow FHG - it's the last episode of Fargo, shutdown, shutdown!

[jayne lee wilson]

Sorry but... there really is nothing new under the....

https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=RELAXA+SAP&client=safari&rls=en&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwia94GrwLnVAhXRLlAKHQyPDeYQ_AUICygC&biw=1413&bih=812

Putting them under CD transports, amps etc., the audible results are surprisingly obvious.... (...improvements are always matter of taste...)

[OldTechie]

A Hi-Fi/Conjuring Trick combination - who can resist?! (Oh - uppards of $1030; I suppose that means I can! )

AND I still can't play my 78s!

For your 78s you need one of these:


We were using these daily in BBC TV News until we moved from Alexandra Palace to the TV Centre in 1969. Unlike the modern thing that replaced them, they did not object to playing discs that had been marked up with Chinagraph pencils for cueing.

[ferneyhoughgeliebte]

Wow! I do, indeed, want one of those! Looks like it can travel through time & space, too!

[Ferretfancy]

For your 78s you need one of these:


We were using these daily in BBC TV News until we moved from Alexandra Palace to the TV Centre in 1969. Unlike the modern thing that replaced them, they did not object to playing discs that had been marked up with Chinagraph pencils for cueing.

They were not terribly good for LPs though, were they? Dubbing at Lime Grove was fun though with the old TD7s still there with our library of 78 sound effects and Conroy mood music!

[Eine Alpensinfonie]

I'm sure I listened more intently, when I used vinyl, but that was probably because I was listening out for pops and crackles.

[richardfinegold]

Sorry but... there really is nothing new under the....

https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=RELAXA+SAP&client=safari&rls=en&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwia94GrwLnVAhXRLlAKHQyPDeYQ_AUICygC&biw=1413&bih=812

Putting them under CD transports, amps etc., the audible results are surprisingly obvious.... (...improvements are always matter of taste...)

Agree totally.
The amount of tweaking that has to go into getting the best sound out of a tt can be endless and Herculean. One factor that most vinylistas don't seem to care about is speed stability. I had a Rega RP5 that would sound awful the last two minutes of every side as the notes were pulled out of shape. Rega even sold an external motor for $200 that was supposed to improve speed stability and all it did was improve the company's bottom line. Rega-philes on forums were recommending applying pieces of toothpicks under the mat, tilting the shelf the table rested upon, placing the lps in a microwave (well, maybe not that)....Other belt drives besides Rega would also suffer not so noticeably but audibly at the end of an lp side, particularly with Piano and vocal music.
If I ever get another tt--not likely--it will be a Direct Drive

[LeMartinPecheur]

Agree totally.
The amount of tweaking that has to go into getting the best sound out of a tt can be endless and Herculean. One factor that most vinylistas don't seem to care about is speed stability. I had a Rega RP5 that would sound awful the last two minutes of every side as the notes were pulled out of shape. Rega even sold an external motor for $200 that was supposed to improve speed stability and all it did was improve the company's bottom line. Rega-philes on forums were recommending applying pieces of toothpicks under the mat, tilting the shelf the table rested upon, placing the lps in a microwave (well, maybe not that)....Other belt drives besides Rega would also suffer not so noticeably but audibly at the end of an lp side, particularly with Piano and vocal music.
If I ever get another tt--not likely--it will be a Direct Drive

I don't recognize these problems RFG! I have an early Linn Sondek belt drive running perfectly happily on its original belt after some 30yrs. The advantage of belt drives over DDs back then was said to be that the supposed technological brilliance of the latter, constant monitoring and correction of speed x times per sec, actually provided constant speed instability with some sort of modulation product in the audible range. Has this now been solved?
Whereas a belt drive might be a tiny bit wrong, but a good one was constantly/ consistently wrong. So no problem for those of us not blessed/cursed with hyper-acute perfect pitch!

[Ferretfancy]

I don't recognize these problems RFG! I have an early Linn Sondek belt drive running perfectly happily on its original belt after some 30yrs. The advantage of belt drives over DDs back then was said to be that the supposed technological brilliance of the latter, constant monitoring and correction of speed x times per sec, actually provided constant speed instability with some sort of modulation product in the audible range. Has this now been solved?
Whereas a belt drive might be a tiny bit wrong, but a good one was constantly/ consistently wrong. So no problem for those of us not blessed/cursed with hyper-acute perfect pitch!

I agree with you, I bought my Linn Sondek which was already a few months old, second hand from a BBC colleague back in about 1976. I've had it overhauled a couple of times since then, and a stylus replacement to the Itok cartridge, and I've invested in an excellent moving coil amplifier to feed into my system. The performance is first rate after all these years.

I'm often baffled by the frequent complaints about clicks and plops and surface noise generally, but can only say that it really isn't a problem. I've always kept my LPs scrupulously clean and I strongly believe that the problems many people seem to face are caused by poor choice of high compliance moving magnet cartridges and low tracking weights.

I'm not a vinylista, but LP quality can be superb. I've just been listening to a disc of various baroque works by Boyce and others with the ECO and Emanuel Hurwitz on a Decca Ace of Diamonds LP. Superb sound and not a click or plop!