Originally posted by Cockney Sparrow
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Proms 2017 in FLAC
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Bryn, on the occasions I have checked the FLAC the peak levels have been much on a par with those of the AAC 320kbps stream - usually somewhere around -3dB but they can vary.
The 10dB difference between your HP and Acer laptops is puzzling. As I understand it there are only three things that can influence the level: the BBC webpage volume adjustment (sb 11), the Firefox level in Windows Mixer (sb 100%) and the level in Total Recorder (sb 100%). What am I missing?
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Is Total Recorder better for recording from R3 than Audacity which I use, much as I would have used a tape recorder? I try to set the rec vol so that the blue lines don't touch the upper and lower limits - presumably this is correct?- but I have little idea about the various tools built in to Audacity and assume they're not needed for radio recording. If I am missing something crucial I'd be grateful for tech guidance.
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Originally posted by johnb View PostBryn, on the occasions I have checked the FLAC the peak levels have been much on a par with those of the AAC 320kbps stream - usually somewhere around -3dB but they can vary.
The 10dB difference between your HP and Acer laptops is puzzling. As I understand it there are only three things that can influence the level: the BBC webpage volume adjustment (sb 11), the Firefox level in Windows Mixer (sb 100%) and the level in Total Recorder (sb 100%). What am I missing?
Damn it! Internet connection just failed (Virgin Media Fibre). Luckily got it back in time for Part 2.
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Originally posted by cmr_for3 View PostSorry if this is seen as hjacking this thread. This may be of use to somebody. I used to be a total recorder user and moved on this set of products. I have the complete capture sweet and can't fault it http://applian.com/replay-capture-suite/ nice and easy to get set up but also has advanced options. Just been recording the flac stream.Originally posted by Bryn View PostDoes this software actually capture the FLAC stream as such, or does the computer's sound facilities first resolve it to PCM?
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Originally posted by David-G View PostI use Replay Media Catcher 7 from Applian. This has a "stream download" option but it does not work for the "Concert Sound" stream. The answer would therefore appear to be "no" for Bryn's first question.
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Originally posted by PJPJ View PostWhich of the Applian components will capture the flac stream?
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Originally posted by David-G View PostI suspect the answer is none. I have been in correspondence with Applian Support who suggest I use the Audio Recorder in RMC7. However, I do not think this captures the stream. I think it would record, but I do not think you would get the full lossless quality.
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I've really enjoyed the FLAC feed this season, and feel it offers a real sound advantage over other ways of listening to R3. But I should report that towards the end of the season I've suffered quite a lot of drop-outs. It's possible that my broadband service is to blame - but I have a 200Mb feed from Virgin which is usually rock-solid. Furthermore I also use Internet Radio as my next best, and this hasn't suffered in the same way. Strange that not many others have reported drop-outs. Incidentally, the FLAC feed often seems to be about two minutes behind 'normal' R3, which is rather a lot, if only important when one needs to switch between them.
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Originally posted by Goon525 View PostI've really enjoyed the FLAC feed this season, and feel it offers a real sound advantage over other ways of listening to R3. But I should report that towards the end of the season I've suffered quite a lot of drop-outs. It's possible that my broadband service is to blame - but I have a 200Mb feed from Virgin which is usually rock-solid. Furthermore I also use Internet Radio as my next best, and this hasn't suffered in the same way. Strange that not many others have reported drop-outs. Incidentally, the FLAC feed often seems to be about two minutes behind 'normal' R3, which is rather a lot, if only important when one needs to switch between them.
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Originally posted by David-G View PostJust wondering whether by a "drop-out" you mean a period of silence after which the stream resumes - or the stream cutting out altogether so that you have to restart it?
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Originally posted by Goon525 View PostBoth of those things have happened. Mainly brief 'periods of silence' but some where the stream has just stopped, and needed bit of cajoling to get going again.
Possibly a reset procedure before listening will reduce problems - though not guaranteed.
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Originally posted by Dave2002 View PostThe two minutes delay between streams makes me wonder if data is being buffered somewhere. With that much data buffer overflow conditions might occur which might indeed cause the dropouts and silences. If you restart the streams can you minimise the delay between the standard and the FLAC stream. You might need to turn some kit off then on to achieve this.
Possibly a reset procedure before listening will reduce problems - though not guaranteed.
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