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  • french frank
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    • Feb 2007
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    How do you dispose of … RESOLVED

    … defunct external hard drives? If not just smashed with a sledge hammer, what security measures are needed?
    It isn't given us to know those rare moments when people are wide open and the lightest touch can wither or heal. A moment too late and we can never reach them any more in this world.
  • BBMmk2
    Late Member
    • Nov 2010
    • 20908

    #2
    Our local amenity site deals with that. Is there one near you?
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    • Nick Armstrong
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      • Nov 2010
      • 26598

      #3
      Originally posted by french frank View Post
      … defunct external hard drives? If not just smashed with a sledge hammer, what security measures are needed?
      Same as internal ones - rendering the actual hard drive platters utterly unreadable is the only 100% safe way.

      I'm dealing with this at the moment, in the context of upgrades to SSD coinciding with leaving legal practice. My HDDs have been used for work for between 5 and 10 years and have all sorts of confidential data about 'interesting' clients. I've taken a lump hammer to them - the MacBook Pro discs were made of glass, and shattered into a thousand pieces ... the iMac annoyingly had very tough metal platters - I've bent them in the middle, then hammered them flat into semi-circles; and am taking them to a friend's with a workshop, where I intend to saw each in two, and dispose of each set of halves in different locations.

      That ought to do it !
      "...the isle is full of noises,
      Sounds and sweet airs, that give delight and hurt not.
      Sometimes a thousand twangling instruments
      Will hum about mine ears, and sometime voices..."

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      • ChrisBennell
        Full Member
        • Sep 2014
        • 171

        #4
        I drill right through them with a quarter inch drill (twice)! Then take them to the recycling depot.

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        • french frank
          Administrator/Moderator
          • Feb 2007
          • 30608

          #5
          The cases don't seem to have an easy way in. Looks like a hammer and bolster job.
          It isn't given us to know those rare moments when people are wide open and the lightest touch can wither or heal. A moment too late and we can never reach them any more in this world.

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          • teamsaint
            Full Member
            • Nov 2010
            • 25240

            #6
            Originally posted by Caliban View Post
            Same as internal ones - rendering the actual hard drive platters utterly unreadable is the only 100% safe way.

            I'm dealing with this at the moment, in the context of upgrades to SSD coinciding with leaving legal practice. My HDDs have been used for work for between 5 and 10 years and have all sorts of confidential data about 'interesting' clients. I've taken a lump hammer to them - the MacBook Pro discs were made of glass, and shattered into a thousand pieces ... the iMac annoyingly had very tough metal platters - I've bent them in the middle, then hammered them flat into semi-circles; and am taking them to a friend's with a workshop, where I intend to saw each in two, and dispose of each set of halves in different locations.

            That ought to do it !
            yup, should do.

            do any of your friends have 2 year old children though? handing the drives to them might be quicker and easier.
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            • Nick Armstrong
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              • Nov 2010
              • 26598

              #7
              Originally posted by french frank View Post
              The cases don't seem to have an easy way in. Looks like a hammer and bolster job.
              There are usually lots of little 'star' type screws ("torx") - and I did need to splash out a princely £1.99 on this:

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              Originally posted by teamsaint View Post
              do any of your friends have 2 year old children though? handing the drives to them might be quicker and easier.


              Damn it, yes - neighbour friends have a very 'creative' little girl exactly that age
              "...the isle is full of noises,
              Sounds and sweet airs, that give delight and hurt not.
              Sometimes a thousand twangling instruments
              Will hum about mine ears, and sometime voices..."

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              • Dave2002
                Full Member
                • Dec 2010
                • 18057

                #8
                Originally posted by ChrisBennell View Post
                I drill right through them with a quarter inch drill (twice)! Then take them to the recycling depot.
                I think you have to drill more than that to be absolutely sure. I have a friend who simply blows them up - but then he does work for organisations with that capability.

                Does putting them on a bonfire work? Or on a nice hot charcoal fire?

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                • Nick Armstrong
                  Host
                  • Nov 2010
                  • 26598

                  #9
                  Originally posted by Dave2002 View Post
                  I have a friend who simply blows them up - but then he does work for organisations with that capability.


                  Arguably a trifle over-the-top?





                  (The metal ones I'm dealing with seem as if they might be the only things that would survive an explosion )
                  "...the isle is full of noises,
                  Sounds and sweet airs, that give delight and hurt not.
                  Sometimes a thousand twangling instruments
                  Will hum about mine ears, and sometime voices..."

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                  • Richard Barrett
                    Guest
                    • Jan 2016
                    • 6259

                    #10
                    Originally posted by french frank View Post
                    If not just smashed with a sledge hammer
                    The hammer approach is very satisfying in my experience. If the casing is recalcitrant, dropping the unit out of a second-storey window works wonders.

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                    • Nick Armstrong
                      Host
                      • Nov 2010
                      • 26598

                      #11
                      Originally posted by Richard Barrett View Post
                      The hammer approach is very satisfying in my experience.
                      Yes beating the little beggers into flat semi-circles with my 4lb lump hammer was great!
                      "...the isle is full of noises,
                      Sounds and sweet airs, that give delight and hurt not.
                      Sometimes a thousand twangling instruments
                      Will hum about mine ears, and sometime voices..."

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                      • ChrisBennell
                        Full Member
                        • Sep 2014
                        • 171

                        #12
                        Originally posted by Dave2002 View Post
                        I think you have to drill more than that to be absolutely sure. I have a friend who simply blows them up - but then he does work for organisations with that capability.

                        Does putting them on a bonfire work? Or on a nice hot charcoal fire?
                        It's all a question of what is cost-effective. Drilling them creates shattered and splintered platters internally, and only takes a minute. I can't imagine anyone looking through a huge Local Authority skip for the odd hard drive to salvage. Agreed that a specialist forensic company might have a slim chance. I wouldn't like to try a bonfire. These things have precious metals in them I believe, and who knows what gases they might give off!

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                        • Zucchini
                          Guest
                          • Nov 2010
                          • 917

                          #13
                          Originally posted by french frank View Post
                          … defunct external hard drives? If not just smashed with a sledge hammer, what security measures are needed?
                          The safest thing to do is to stick fluorescent labels on them saying:

                          Gibbon's Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire Vols 1 -22
                          Quantum Electrodynamics for Nobel Prize winners
                          My catalogue and descriptions of 5,297 traffic lights


                          Then bin them or post them to an old people's home

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                          • french frank
                            Administrator/Moderator
                            • Feb 2007
                            • 30608

                            #14
                            Originally posted by Zucchini View Post
                            The safest thing to do is to stick fluorescent labels on them saying:

                            Gibbon's Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire Vols 1 -22
                            Quantum Electrodynamics for Nobel Prize winners
                            My catalogue and descriptions of 5,297 traffic lights


                            Then bin them or post them to an old people's home


                            Reminds me of WH Auden saying if a stranger in a train asked him his occupation he found the most satisfactory reply was 'Medieval Historian' because it "withers curiosity". Thus may one wither curiosity as to the contents of a discarded hard drive.
                            It isn't given us to know those rare moments when people are wide open and the lightest touch can wither or heal. A moment too late and we can never reach them any more in this world.

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                            • ferneyhoughgeliebte
                              Gone fishin'
                              • Sep 2011
                              • 30163

                              #15
                              The trouble with this Thread title is that on the "What's New?" page, I keep reading "How do you dispose of french frank today at 16:48"!
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