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  • Dave2002
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    • Dec 2010
    • 18045

    iMac memory upgrades

    I have now upgraded my late 2009 iMac to 12 Gbytes. This makes some things faster (a bit), and most things rather less clunky. I can now also be doing more than one thing at a time without too much bother.

    For example, I am currently analysing some video in another window using Adobe Premiere Elements (APE) as I type this into the input box in Firefox. Previously the machine, and also myself was struggling, with the machine only having 4 Gbytes of main memory. It was possible to edit video with APE before, but only just, and it wasn't a particularly pleasant experience. Now, out of devilment I'm also running iTunes, listening to Mozart's piano concerto 1 with Martin Galling, Günter Wich & Stuttgarter Solisten, and I have also loaded up other browsers, Safari, Opera, Chrome, and also opened up Word, which is doing an update.

    The Memory Monitor app which is a useful tool is still showing 30-3x% of the total memory free, though this can be knocked up to 50% by hitting the Optimize button in Memory Monitor.

    The whole thing does feel much more responsive, though in terms of raw speed on the most critical tasks it is not particularly faster than before. Thus the background video tasks don't seem much faster, but at least they can be put into the background while I get on with other things. Previously it was almost as much as I could do to run the video tasks, and I had to wait until they'd completed before running anything else.

    For the moment the update to 12 Gbyte will suffice. I bought the memory from Crucial for a fraction more than £40 - and I checked the memory using the Crucial Scanner. I also had several chat sessions with Crucial agents to confirm what to get. Even better, I did the upgrade today, and I only ordered the memory yesterday. I did not choose to have express delivery for an additional charge, but even so the memory has arrived within 24 hours of ordering it. Excellent! I wasn't expecting to get to this state until early next week. Well done Crucial! http://uk.crucial.com/gbr/en?gclid=C...160227151715:s

    Video to show how to do the upgrade from OWC - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z4UqhXIcEQ4

    This particular machine will upgrade to 16 Gbytes, so if I feel it needs a bit more memory to free it up further, then I shall consider another £40 rather well spent.

    I did risk things slightly - after all in the UK we do live in a damp climate. I watched a video about the upgrade - which does have the inevitable health warning about static electricity. I rolled the rug in our hall back a bit. Then I put a damp towel down on the tiled floor next to the radiator, and then put silver foil on top of that. I also grabbed hold of the radiator while I handled the modules, and I followed the instructions in the video. As I half feared my first attempt seemed to require considerable force to put the new modules in, so instead I ejected the old ones, and then put the new ones into the vacated slots. This gave an upgrade to 8 Gbytes, which I then checked out. After a short period of testing I decided to try to put the original 2 Gbyte modules back into the other empty slots. This was still a bit of a brute force operation. I don't do this every day, so I just went for brute force. If I were doing this a lot, I'd probably have squirted contact cleaner on to the contacts, which would most likely have made things easier, but it's done now, and seems OK.

    I do actually have a conducting strap, which normally I attach to the radiator for operations similar to this, but as is the way of things that has now submerged into the general mire - hence my slightly riskier procedure today.

    I do have a slightly earlier machine to upgrade - but that only has 2 slots. The success of this one will probably encourage me to do that one soon. If I'm feeling ultra mean I may only put one 4 Gbyte module into that, to take it to 6Gbytes total. In theory that might not be optimum, as there is a kind of received wisdom that the modules should be balanced pairs in each bank, but it does look as though some tests on other machines haven't shown any major differences/difficulties. OTOH - even at £40+ it's not a big deal to do that upgrade, though I will then have spare 2 Gbyte modules to discard or give away.

    For anyone with an iMac who might be experiencing memory issues (slow, clunky feel ...) I thoroughly recommend this kind of upgrade. It is quite easy to test using the Memory Monitor app - which works with OS X versions 8 up to 11 as far as I can tell. That app does give a different view in 10.8 as that doesn't have the fancier memory management system which has been developed and used in Mavericks through to El Capitan.

    Anyone who has critical cpu bound tasks may not get so much benefit, and then the only real solution is to go for a faster machine, but most of us round here might find that a memory upgrade is a good thing to try first.
    Last edited by Dave2002; 27-02-16, 15:44.
  • Nick Armstrong
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    • Nov 2010
    • 26575

    #2
    The thing that utterly rejuvenated my mid-2010 17" MacBook Pro was replacing the hard drive with a 500GB SSD. Everything is stunningly faster - starting up, scrolling through e.g. photos, etc. Best computer-related thing I ever did.
    "...the isle is full of noises,
    Sounds and sweet airs, that give delight and hurt not.
    Sometimes a thousand twangling instruments
    Will hum about mine ears, and sometime voices..."

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    • Dave2002
      Full Member
      • Dec 2010
      • 18045

      #3
      Originally posted by Caliban View Post
      The thing that utterly rejuvenated my mid-2010 17" MacBook Pro was replacing the hard drive with a 500GB SSD. Everything is stunningly faster - starting up, scrolling through e.g. photos, etc. Best computer-related thing I ever did.
      SSDs are good - I agree. I'm waiting until my MBP is another year old at which point I may replace the 256 Gbyte SSD with a 1 Gbyte one. I think doing the SSD upgrade on a MacBook isn't too difficult. Mrs D has a 128 Gbyte SSD in an Air - but seems to manage with that OK. I would probably find that a challenge. It can be upgraded later, if the need/demand arises.

      Memory upgrades on some iMacs are quite easy, but I get more scared about the drive upgrades (which I've not attempted) as I think that involves unlatching the display and a bit more poking around, while the memory (if possible) can usually be done through a panel at the bottom, held on by a few screws, and the old memory should just pull out and/or new memory be pushed in depending on the number of slots. Sometimes this can be hard, and serious brute force is needed.

      I did a previous, older iMac, and I had to resort to using tapered pliers actually on the modules to get the old ones out. A gentler approach using rubber pads on the pliers (after trying gentle tugging etc.) did not work. The new modules also had to be removed once as the first attempt to get a good contact failed - all a bit tricky. The machine booted up with less memory than it started with! In the end I just decided to be brutal, but fortunately it worked, and finally there was more memory than at the start.

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      • Beef Oven!
        Ex-member
        • Sep 2013
        • 18147

        #4
        Originally posted by Caliban View Post
        The thing that utterly rejuvenated my mid-2010 17" MacBook Pro was replacing the hard drive with a 500GB SSD. Everything is stunningly faster - starting up, scrolling through e.g. photos, etc. Best computer-related thing I ever did.
        I've had the same improvement. I had mistakenly believed that a better RAM set-up would speed-up my machine.

        However, it turns out that a better RAM might prevent things slowing down, but can't actually speed things up.

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        • Dave2002
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          • Dec 2010
          • 18045

          #5
          Originally posted by Beef Oven! View Post
          I've had the same improvement. I had mistakenly believed that a better RAM set-up would speed-up my machine.

          However, it turns out that a better RAM might prevent things slowing down, but can't actually speed things up.
          For cpu bound tasks the only option once the RAM is OK is to have a faster processor - probably higher clock rate and/or more cores.

          For i/o bound tasks then using SSD instead of discs should give an improvement, though the RAM should be optimised to minimise swapping first.

          You are right - there is virtually no speed improvement if more RAM is put into a machine which already has sufficient - though it is possible to run extra tasks as I found, and things are a lot less clunky.

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          • Beef Oven!
            Ex-member
            • Sep 2013
            • 18147

            #6
            Originally posted by Dave2002 View Post
            For cpu bound tasks the only option once the RAM is OK is to have a faster processor - probably higher clock rate and/or more cores.

            For i/o bound tasks then using SSD instead of discs should give an improvement, though the RAM should be optimised to minimise swapping first.

            You are right - there is virtually no speed improvement if more RAM is put into a machine which already has sufficient - though it is possible to run extra tasks as I found, and things are a lot less clunky.
            It's not me that's right Dave, it's the people at the Mac Upgrade Centre, but well done on making your machine go faster with your 12g RAM

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            • Nick Armstrong
              Host
              • Nov 2010
              • 26575

              #7
              Originally posted by Dave2002 View Post
              I think doing the SSD upgrade on a MacBook isn't too difficult.
              The chap I hired didn't take long, certainly!

              "...the isle is full of noises,
              Sounds and sweet airs, that give delight and hurt not.
              Sometimes a thousand twangling instruments
              Will hum about mine ears, and sometime voices..."

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              • Anastasius
                Full Member
                • Mar 2015
                • 1860

                #8
                Interesting. I loaded up Memory Monitor and hit the old Optimise button and was distinctly underwhelmed. Maybe I'm not trying to load enough programs...!!!
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                • Dave2002
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                  • Dec 2010
                  • 18045

                  #9
                  Slight b*mmer re my MBP though. From Crucial:

                  MacBook Pro (Retina, 13-inch, Early 2013)
                  We’re sorry.

                  Crucial currently does not have any compatible upgrades available for your particular system.
                  I wonder if an SSD upgrade will become possible eventually. Doesn't look as though memory is going to work though.

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                  • Anastasius
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                    • Mar 2015
                    • 1860

                    #10
                    Originally posted by Dave2002 View Post
                    Slight b*mmer re my MBP though. From Crucial:



                    I wonder if an SSD upgrade will become possible eventually. Doesn't look as though memory is going to work though.
                    I am surprised at that as 2013 is not that old. I recently upgraded my 2009 (or maybe 2007) MBP perfectly OK from Crucial. Have you tried Kingston?
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                    • Dave2002
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                      • Dec 2010
                      • 18045

                      #11
                      Originally posted by Anastasius View Post
                      I am surprised at that as 2013 is not that old. I recently upgraded my 2009 (or maybe 2007) MBP perfectly OK from Crucial. Have you tried Kingston?
                      I was surprised, but the message says that the memory is soldered in. I'm not sure about the SSD - that may be OK, but perhaps Crucial haven't got round to doing a kit for my model. In fairness, when I bought the machine I thought 8 Gbytes would be enough, though it would be good to get the SSD upgraded if possible in a while.

                      I think there are firms which can do an upgrade - but they know which bits to unsolder/resolder. Whether it's worth it .... ????

                      The lesson for me, and others, to learn is to get as much memory and SSD memory as you can afford if this is going to become a problem - but then that's exactly what I did at the time, and I didn't expect there'd be a problem. In fact mostly there isn't, but I'm now going to have to rely more on my desk top machines, which I hadn't anticipated.

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                      • Anastasius
                        Full Member
                        • Mar 2015
                        • 1860

                        #12
                        I finally got round to binning Memory Monitor which has to be one of the most useless utilities I have ever come across for the Mac. I am amazed that it gets so many plaudits.
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