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  • Anastasius
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    • Mar 2015
    • 1860

    #16
    Originally posted by Dave2002 View Post
    Only if I can get the distribution files.
    Well in my Applications Folder I have a program that says Install Mavericks. Don't know if it is the entire set but I just fired it up and it certainly loads. If there is a way of getting it to you .....
    Fewer Smart things. More smart people.

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    • Dave2002
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      • Dec 2010
      • 18061

      #17
      Originally posted by Anastasius View Post
      Well in my Applications Folder I have a program that says Install Mavericks. Don't know if it is the entire set but I just fired it up and it certainly loads. If there is a way of getting it to you .....
      Re contact - I have PMd you.

      Re my current project - I need to make a decision soon - and either could be a bit of a pain. Both involve upgrading from Mountain Lion, though in one case it's a slower iMac - but it does have a nice large screen, while the other is a fast i7 MBP with a Retina display.
      In both cases I'll have to do a substantial backup, and tidying up of files, before installing another OS. Despite the gloom though, I do wonder whether it does now make sense to go straight for El Capitain, and whether that will run the Adobe Premiere 14 package - which I hope it will. Otherwise I'd have to go either to Mavericks or Yosemite, and obtain the distribution files for one or other of those.

      I can do without problems like these, but on the other hand it's been a while since I had anything so tricky to do.

      The real pain is that I can see the video files running quite nicely on my screens, and if I don't bother with any fancy editing, I could simply burn them to DVD. Snag is that "simply" isn't the word to use. It might be a simple matter with a good software package, and perhaps Premiere will do that, but right now I am really surprised that there isn't an easily available and easy to use functional tool for Mac OS which doesn't cost an arm and a leg to make a DVD.

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      • Stunsworth
        Full Member
        • Nov 2010
        • 1553

        #18
        Toast?

        Explore the comprehensive toolkit for burning, editing & sharing your digital media. Roxio Toast 20 offers complete customization for DVD authoring, an intuitive interface, easy file conversion tools & more to streamline your workflow.
        Steve

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        • Dave2002
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          • Dec 2010
          • 18061

          #19
          Originally posted by Stunsworth View Post
          Actually one of my friends recommended that one, but when I pointed out that I'm not a charitable organisation**, made of money - see http://www.amazon.co.uk/Roxio-Toast-...tware+titanium - for over £70, he pointed out that the Apple Store has downloadable versions which are considerably cheaper - though I'm not quite sure which of the Apple Store apps is the one to get.

          ** strictly not true - I do give some money away, but not as much as the Facebook guy!

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          • Dave2002
            Full Member
            • Dec 2010
            • 18061

            #20
            PS re above. Are the Apple Store "apps" available for several machines in a household, or just one per machine? Quite a lot of the other stuff can go on multiple machines - say at least 3 or 4, so that would be good if it were the case. Otherwise not so good - obviously!

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            • Stunsworth
              Full Member
              • Nov 2010
              • 1553

              #21
              All the Mac store apps I've bought have been available to download on multiple Macs. I only have two, so don't know if there's a maximum.

              I can see the £14 app made by the Toast people. It looks perfectly adequate if you just want to burn video files to DVD (or Blu-Ray if you buy the plugin).
              Steve

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              • MrGongGong
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                • Nov 2010
                • 18357

                #22
                Toast is the one for me, simple and easy to use

                (used to be Nero on the PC)

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                • Dave2002
                  Full Member
                  • Dec 2010
                  • 18061

                  #23
                  Originally posted by Stunsworth View Post
                  All the Mac store apps I've bought have been available to download on multiple Macs. I only have two, so don't know if there's a maximum.

                  I can see the £14 app made by the Toast people. It looks perfectly adequate if you just want to burn video files to DVD (or Blu-Ray if you buy the plugin).
                  Presumably Toast DVD - which seems to have what they call Family Sharing, so shoulld work for me with my various machines. Actually looks like £14.99 - but what's small change between .....

                  Hopefully it's tolerant of OS versions - maybe from 10.6.8 Snow Leopard, or from 10.8 - Mountain Lion.

                  PS: Actually not of SL - only from 10.7 onwards, so I'll have to move the files to one of the other machines - but not a terribly difficult task.

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                  • Anastasius
                    Full Member
                    • Mar 2015
                    • 1860

                    #24
                    iDVD?

                    Fewer Smart things. More smart people.

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                    • MrGongGong
                      Full Member
                      • Nov 2010
                      • 18357

                      #25
                      Originally posted by Anastasius View Post
                      Don't go there
                      buy Toast

                      The version I have has no problem being installed on three machines (Snow Leopard, Lion and Yosemite)

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                      • Dave2002
                        Full Member
                        • Dec 2010
                        • 18061

                        #26
                        Originally posted by MrGongGong View Post
                        Don't go there
                        buy Toast

                        The version I have has no problem being installed on three machines (Snow Leopard, Lion and Yosemite)
                        Now got Toast running on a Core Duo iMac - trying to burn a DVD. Boy is it slow. Should I expect it to be about 25-30% of real time? That is about 3 hours for a one hour video?

                        If I can load this version of Toast on to other machines I could try running on my i7 MBP - which might make it a few times faster.

                        I've not done anything this slow for years - not since I ran some experimental programs over night over 20 years ago.

                        Perhaps I need to reduce the video resolutation, which would perhaps be a slowish process, but then maybe the encoding and DVD burning would go faster. Maybe also it's the quality level which is causing the slowness - I chose the best level.

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                        • Anastasius
                          Full Member
                          • Mar 2015
                          • 1860

                          #27
                          You are not alone.

                          Roxio Customer Service can assist you with orders, product registration, and any questions you may have.


                          Maybe Toast is toast?
                          Fewer Smart things. More smart people.

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                          • MrGongGong
                            Full Member
                            • Nov 2010
                            • 18357

                            #28
                            Originally posted by Dave2002 View Post
                            Now got Toast running on a Core Duo iMac - trying to burn a DVD. Boy is it slow. Should I expect it to be about 25-30% of real time? That is about 3 hours for a one hour video?

                            If I can load this version of Toast on to other machines I could try running on my i7 MBP - which might make it a few times faster.

                            I've not done anything this slow for years - not since I ran some experimental programs over night over 20 years ago.

                            Perhaps I need to reduce the video resolutation, which would perhaps be a slowish process, but then maybe the encoding and DVD burning would go faster. Maybe also it's the quality level which is causing the slowness - I chose the best level.
                            That's interesting (and frustrating)
                            I've not had similar problems with Toast (apart from knowing that burning on the mac is slower than it was on the PC's I used to have)
                            This seems a bit excessive to me.

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                            • Dave2002
                              Full Member
                              • Dec 2010
                              • 18061

                              #29
                              Originally posted by MrGongGong View Post
                              That's interesting (and frustrating)
                              I've not had similar problems with Toast (apart from knowing that burning on the mac is slower than it was on the PC's I used to have)
                              This seems a bit excessive to me.
                              It was frustrating. There could be several factors which made the time taken longer:

                              1. I thnk the source files were on an external drive - that wouldn't have helped. I could copy them on to the main drive.

                              2. I set the quality level to highest.

                              3. Perhaps the video was actually HD in the first place - not much I can do about that - unless I deliberately resize before trying for the DVD.

                              I'll try again soon. Things are a bit better now I know roughly how long it could take. Once of my friends and former colleagues suggested that DVDs are usually an overnight job. I'll revisit this.

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