"Most BBC radio stations to become unavailable for international users"

[oddoneout]

Can you folks on the Septic Isle listen to WDR or France Musique, for example? I know that the various France Musique podcasts are easily accessible from Germany (where I am).

I can(and do) listen to such stations on my PC - but not to Sounds... It is possible that the lack of ancillary equipment such as separate speakers is the issue, but the lack of adequate volume even when I am sitting right beside the box of tricks, whereas I can generally hear the online stations adequately across the room does not engender positive feelings towards the Beeb!

[oddoneout]

Ok . I tend to assume that most people know that a modest part of the fee pays for national and local radio.

Most people didn't think about it, even years ago when radio was something that was used more widely. It is called TV licence, all the pay up exhortations focus on TV. I am one of those who continue to pay to support radio, even though my viewing of BBC TV is minimal and the general content is of less and less interest. I must confess that this year I did waver somewhat; the combination of the cost increase and the now minimal use of R3, thanks to Mr Jackson's efforts, have considerably reduced the personal benefit. The balance is moving into solely supporting a principle rather than a commodity I want and use, and that needs consideration in view of other demands on my money. A tipping point would be the final demise of my TV set as I would then have to join the 21st century which would potentially give the option of not needing a licence.

[Sir Velo]

BBC radio 3 not available abroad? Philistines! Barbarians!.Vandals!

No trailers; no bleeding chunks? No inane prattle at Breakfast? No FNIMN? No The Squire? no Katie Derham? :

[LMcD]

There seems to be a misunderstanding on this thread about the removal of these stations. It’s all to do with rights costs . When the BBC buys rights to music and indeed most copyrighted content it generally buys rights for UK transmission only. That’s because foreign rights ,especially US ones , are very expensive. A Tv programme could pay thousands of pounds to licence some US commercial tracks if they wanted global clearance. That’s why you don’t hear much Elvis Presley in BBC dramas.
Although radio “needle time” costs are much less they still add up.
To those who listen to or watch the BBC abroad and don’t pay the licence fee I would invite them to make a contribution to the BBC’s costs. To those who complain about constant cuts I’d just point out the 30 per cent cut the BBC has had in real terms to the licence fee since 2000 plus additional costs of services like S4C and The World Service. The German TV licence fee is considerably more expensive - but it’s much less of an issue in that country.

£181 (€ 220.32) as against £169.50..

[teamsaint]

I was wondering, in part because we are often told the licence fee is to pay for BBCTV, not radio.

Ok . I tend to assume that most people know that a modest part of the fee pays for national and local radio.

[Ein Heldenleben]

There seems to be a misunderstanding on this thread about the removal of these stations. It’s all to do with rights costs . When the BBC buys rights to music and indeed most copyrighted content it generally buys rights for UK transmission only. That’s because foreign rights ,especially US ones , are very expensive. A Tv programme could pay thousands of pounds to licence some US commercial tracks if they wanted global clearance. That’s why you don’t hear much Elvis Presley in BBC dramas.
Although radio “needle time” costs are much less they still add up.
To those who listen to or watch the BBC abroad and don’t pay the licence fee I would invite them to make a contribution to the BBC’s costs. To those who complain about constant cuts I’d just point out the 30 per cent cut the BBC has had in real terms to the licence fee since 2000 plus additional costs of services like S4C and The World Service. The German TV licence fee is considerably more expensive - but it’s much less of an issue in that country.

[Serial_Apologist]

My point is that , like it or not, the licence is under threat. If politicians deem it to have had its time , an alternative will need to be found.

The BBC may retain substantial support , but there are a lot of people who resent licence fee,which has some clear unfairness, and there are media powers who encourage this.

I was wondering, in part because we are often told the licence fee is to pay for BBCTV, not radio.

[teamsaint]

Does this represent how discredited the BBC has become for some of us?



How much do people think the BBC will actually SAVE?

My point is that , like it or not, the licence is under threat. If politicians deem it to have had its time , an alternative will need to be found.

The BBC may retain substantial support , but there are a lot of people who resent licence fee,which has some clear unfairness, and there are media powers who encourage this.

[Serial_Apologist]

Well if the push to replace the licence fee is successful , something will have to replace it.
A subscription model seems to me to be the obvious and least unfair solution, but adverts might be part of a mix I guess.

Does this represent how discredited the BBC has become for some of us?



How much do people think the BBC will actually SAVE?

[vinteuil]

In 1934 the motto of the BBC was "Quaecumque", meaning "Whatsoever" - inspired by St Paul's Epistle to the Philippians 4:8 -

de cetero fratres quaecumque sunt vera quaecumque pudica quaecumque iusta quaecumque sancta quaecumque amabilia quaecumque bonae famae si qua virtus si qua laus haec cogitate

(Finally, brethren, whatsoever things are true, whatsoever things are honest, whatsoever things are just, whatsoever things are pure, whatsoever things are lovely, whatsoever things are of good report; if there be any virtue, and if there be any praise, think on these things)

In 1948 it reverted to "Nation shall speak peace unto Nation"

Nowadays the motto is "Whatever".

Actually, "Whatevs..." - (in da yoof speak)




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[LMcD]

Can you folks on the Septic Isle listen to WDR or France Musique, for example? I know that the various France Musique podcasts are easily accessible from Germany (where I am).

My late father-in-law (who was South African) used to refer to us as the Benighted Kingdom, which I found a tad patronising. Were he still alive, I hope | would be gracious enough to tell him he was right. A further round of cuts to the World Service has recently been announced, Ironically, the weekly listeners' feedback programme is to become monthly.

[LMcD]

commercialisation of BBC - sponsored adverts to follow ?

As long as they contain 'live' music.

[teamsaint]

commercialisation of BBC - sponsored adverts to follow ?

Well if the push to replace the licence fee is successful , something will have to replace it.
A subscription model seems to me to be the obvious and least unfair solution, but adverts might be part of a mix I guess.

[Frances_iom]

commercialisation of BBC - sponsored adverts to follow ?

[Roger Webb]

Can you folks on the Septic Isle listen to WDR or France Musique, for example? I know that the various France Musique podcasts are easily accessible from Germany (where I am).

Yes! Just about every radio station in the world is easily (see thread on internet radio) available! The BBC have been busy taking down their streams from those aggregators used by streamers and smart speakers, causing much consternation here. I've bought two streamers specifically to listen to radio (actually I stream Qobuz too) but neither will now stream BBC stations, we have to use BBCs Sounds App. I listen to WDR3, NPO4, RBB3 etc. regularly, and other forum members have said that they listen to other 'foreign' stations, YLE (Finland) is very popular.

With the latest announcement those in the rest of the World will not be able to listen to Radio 3 at all.....although there may be a work-around with a VPN as there is with receiving iPlayer abroad.