iPads - am I imagining it, or do they get slower with age?

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  • Dave2002
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    • Dec 2010
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    iPads - am I imagining it, or do they get slower with age?

    I have a 64 Gbyte 1st generation iPad. It's getting old and worn, and has been knocked about a bit, but it still works.
    I get the feeling though that it's slowing down.

    Partly this could be a perception thing, as we all expect pieces of kit to work faster as new models come out, but actually I don't think that is the case. I think it really is slowing down. The memory is now just about half full. To my amazement when I used it a lot there was only about 16 Gbytes out of the total actually being used, and even now the used memory was only around 30Gbytes recently.

    Maybe the software is slowing things down - always possible. Also, the flash memory could be becoming slower, as bad bits are dynamically moved out of scope - which I believe is how they are set up to work.

    I will probably buy a new one with the next version, which will have given me around 3 years - perhaps slightly more - of continuous use, and despite the limitations of the devices I personally found it useful - and also for work, which I have now mostly given up. I know others who really love iPads, and others who hate them and say they are totally useless for serious work. One of these latter says that she'd rather have been sold a more expensive small and powerful laptop, than something which for her barely does anything she wants to do.

    Anyway, has anyone else noticed these devices slowing as they get older? One other possibility is the sheer number of apps loaded - even if they don't use up all the memory, and most of them aren't used most of the time. In that case the cpu could be spending its time monitoring a large number of apps which are really inactive - which would of course be not very clever software design, but something that many companies are very capable of. I also wonder about behind the scenes garbage collection, and whether some apps, such as email clients, cause big problems.
  • Old Grumpy
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    • Jan 2011
    • 3650

    #2
    Perhaps you're just getting faster with age

    OG

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    • cloughie
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      • Dec 2011
      • 22202

      #3
      Originally posted by Old Grumpy View Post
      Perhaps you're just getting faster with age

      OG
      As I've got older my memory has become almost full!

      ...and less accessible!

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      • Dave2002
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        • Dec 2010
        • 18045

        #4
        Originally posted by Old Grumpy View Post
        Perhaps you're just getting faster with age

        OG
        MMMMmmmm.......
        Maybe as the universe expands at a greater rate we're all going faster, so time dilation sets in - though that shouldn't work
        as we're all more or less in the same local frame of reference, and I should be near as makes no matter in the same local frame of reference as my iPad.

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        • mangerton
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          • Nov 2010
          • 3346

          #5
          I'll ignore the "relative" remarks. Oddly enough I have a first generation ipad (32 gig, cellular) now just three years old. It has been great; I have taken it everywhere, and it has performed faultlessly. This week it accompanied me on the train to Mallaig. I have "UK map" installed, and I'd downloaded largescale maps of the route. I watched the blue dot, which showed exactly where we were, and listened to music on headphones. It made the journey much more interesting to a cartophile like me!

          Anyway, to answer your question, I haven't noticed it getting noticeably slower, but I have noticed an increased tendency to crash while browsing some websites - notably newspapers. This could very well be due to these websites being cluttered with adverts and other extraneous junk.

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          • Dave2002
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            • Dec 2010
            • 18045

            #6
            Mangerton

            Did you upgrade to the latest iOS possible on 1st gen devices? I'm on 5.1.1. If you're not on that and you're happy with what you have I'd suggest not upgrading. Maybe I should back off some of my apps and delete the ones I don't use much from the device.

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            • teamsaint
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              • Nov 2010
              • 25229

              #7
              Originally posted by mangerton View Post
              I'll ignore the "relative" remarks. Oddly enough I have a first generation ipad (32 gig, cellular) now just three years old. It has been great; I have taken it everywhere, and it has performed faultlessly. This week it accompanied me on the train to Mallaig. I have "UK map" installed, and I'd downloaded largescale maps of the route. I watched the blue dot, which showed exactly where we were, and listened to music on headphones. It made the journey much more interesting to a cartophile like me!

              Anyway, to answer your question, I haven't noticed it getting noticeably slower, but I have noticed an increased tendency to crash while browsing some websites - notably newspapers. This could very well be due to these websites being cluttered with adverts and other extraneous junk.
              the joys of Ipad apart, was it a good jaunt, Mangers? Whats the weather like?I'm off to Skye in a couple of months............
              I will not be pushed, filed, stamped, indexed, briefed, debriefed or numbered. My life is my own.

              I am not a number, I am a free man.

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              • mangerton
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                • Nov 2010
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                #8
                Originally posted by Dave2002 View Post
                Mangerton

                Did you upgrade to the latest iOS possible on 1st gen devices? I'm on 5.1.1. If you're not on that and you're happy with what you have I'd suggest not upgrading. Maybe I should back off some of my apps and delete the ones I don't use much from the device.
                Dave, I've just checked and I too am on 5.1.1 I don't think we're able to revert to an earlier version as we could on a PC. Your idea of deleting apps sounds good and I'll give it a try.

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                • mangerton
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                  • Nov 2010
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                  #9
                  Originally posted by teamsaint View Post
                  the joys of Ipad apart, was it a good jaunt, Mangers? Whats the weather like?I'm off to Skye in a couple of months............
                  teamsaint, in a word, it was brilliant - well worth £17.

                  Here's a link to a picture of the ferry about to leave on its run to the Small Isles - the evocatively entitled Eigg, Muck, Rum and Canna.

                  And this is the view through the train window from the Glenfinnan viaduct looking towards Loch Shiel. You can see the monument erected in 1815 to mark the spot where "Bonnie Prince Charlie" raised his standard in 1745. These are not great pictures, but they do indicate how good the weather was. The train driver stopped on the viaduct, no doubt to facilitate picture taking. As has been said, they do things differently on the West Highland Line.

                  No doubt I'll become a hostage to fortune, but May and June are generally regarded as the best time of year to visit Scotland, and certainly this has been my experience. I first went to Skye in August, and it rained all weekend. A few years ago, I went in March and experienced brilliant sunshine. I hope you're lucky, and that you have a good time. Do let us know how you get on.

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                  • teamsaint
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                    • Nov 2010
                    • 25229

                    #10
                    Thanks Mangers.
                    We were contemplating the train trip if we can get from Skye to Mallaig on a ferry.
                    Beautiful piccies. Glad you had a good trip.

                    Wonder if there is any music on in Skye in May?
                    I will not be pushed, filed, stamped, indexed, briefed, debriefed or numbered. My life is my own.

                    I am not a number, I am a free man.

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                    • Flosshilde
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                      • Nov 2010
                      • 7988

                      #11
                      Don't know about Skye in May, but there's a Mendelsohn Festival on Mull in July http://mendelssohnonmull.com/mendelssohn-on-mull-2014/

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                      • Ariosto

                        #12
                        All this talk of Skye and Mallaig are making me envious - i recently saw the West Highland Line on "Great Railway Journeys" on TV with Mr Portillo and I was really knocked out by the scenery. We are thinking of Scotland or North Wales (Snowdonia) this year as I would like to broaden the mind of my Lurcher, Bonnie - and my wife has never seen Scotland. It would be a long drive, 500 miles+ I would think. The other place which is tempting us is Cornwall, as we haven't been there for a few years.

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                        • Lento
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                          • Jan 2014
                          • 646

                          #13
                          I grew tired of my iPad1 as it struggled to cope with various apps as they were updated. When the iPad Air was launched, I took the plunge and bought one without delay. I'm really glad I did, cost notwithstanding: the difference in performance is a world away and it feels much lighter too. I suppose doing a restore on the iPad1 may bring some benefits as a first step.

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                          • Dave2002
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                            • Dec 2010
                            • 18045

                            #14
                            Originally posted by Lento View Post
                            I grew tired of my iPad1 as it struggled to cope with various apps as they were updated. When the iPad Air was launched, I took the plunge and bought one without delay. I'm really glad I did, cost notwithstanding: the difference in performance is a world away and it feels much lighter too. I suppose doing a restore on the iPad1 may bring some benefits as a first step.
                            I'm mean enough to want to wait until the next one (Air mk2?) comes out, but when that happens I think the current ones will be relegated - perhaps to function as controllers for other kit. I have seen the current Air version - it does indeed seem much better than the iPad 1. Purely for a portable device though, the Nexus 7 inch is very good, with an excellent display. There was an offer from the Times for anyone who wants a digital only subscription which included a Nexus tablet for not a lot - not sure if that's still available. [Doesn't seem to be now - March 2014 - but it was a good deal.]
                            Last edited by Dave2002; 23-03-14, 10:27. Reason: typo!

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                            • Globaltruth
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                              • Nov 2010
                              • 4301

                              #15
                              Originally posted by Dave2002 View Post
                              I'm mean enough to want to wait until the next one (Air mk2?) comes out, but when that happens I think the current ones will be relegated - perhaps to function as contollers for other kit. I have seen the current Air version - it does indeed seem much better than the iPad 1. Purely for a portable device though, the Nexus 7 inch is very good, with an excellent display. There was an offer from the Times for anyone who wants a digital only subscription which included a Nexus tablet for not a lot - not sure if that's still available.
                              My grandkids were given an iPad1 by a well meaning friend. We've recently had to abandon it for the same reason - even though I upgraded it as much as possible, diligently deleted unused apps, it crawled along. Wouldn't run some of the later apps at all.
                              Given that the display was also scratched and unresponsive, I ditched it at Xmas and replaced it with an iPad mini - problem solved.

                              We're using an iPad2 4thGen (09/12) which is still performing well...I still think of it as brand new. Recently replaced a big old white MacBook which I worked out was bought around 2000 - no complaints about their longevity and could have struggled on with those if I had replaced the keyboard (a single letter had started sticking)

                              I intend shipping the old iPad & Macbook to these people who will buy them for parts, then I'll let the grandkids choose a charity...

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