GMT

[Beef Oven!]

or political correctness at its BST ?

George BST

[Petrushka]

Are you suggesting changing it by 30 mins or 45 minutes instead?

Who says you have to lose an hours sleep every end of March? Why not get your normal quota of shut eye then put forward your clock an hour at sometime on Sunday afternoon? Time is a human construct anyway and can be manipulated.

Regarding the change back in October, I well remember a letter to the Times in which someone claimed to put their clocks back on Sunday night not Saturday, thus getting the extra hour of kip on Monday morning.

[Serial_Apologist]

Ukip if you want to....

[french frank]

Who says you have to lose an hours sleep every end of March? Why not get your normal quota of shut eye then put forward your clock an hour at sometime on Sunday afternoon? Time is a human construct anyway and can be manipulated.

Of course it can. I changed my clocks on Saturday evening and went to bed an hour earlier, not losing any sleep. It doesn't take much brain (I did it myself) to work out what suits people. There's no law saying everyone must change their clocks at 2am on the dot on the Sunday.

[jean]

The 10am Mass won't wait, unfortunately.

[ahinton]

Of course it can. I changed my clocks on Saturday evening and went to bed an hour earlier, not losing any sleep. It doesn't take much brain (I did it myself) to work out what suits people. There's no law saying everyone must change their clocks at 2am on the dot on the Sunday.

No, indeed there isn't, but there shouldn't be a "law" that provides for such twice yearly changes anyway; OK, the clock changing business is not so much of a nuisance as once it was, now that so many appliances / devices change the time automatically, but an unnecessary nuisance it still is.

[french frank]

No, indeed there isn't, but there shouldn't be a "law" that provides for such twice yearly changes anyway; OK, the clock changing business is not so much of a nuisance as once it was, now that so many appliances / devices change the time automatically, but an unnecessary nuisance it still is.

Why is it less of a nuisance now? And from whose point of view is it 'unnecessary'? (Though it is a bit 'European' as a custom)

I wonder if we could also keep summer all year round? It's very inconvenient having to change the winter curtains every spring.

[ahinton]

Why is it less of a nuisance now?

I just said why - "now that so many appliances / devices change the time automatically" - i.e. one does not have to go around changing every timepiece manually as used to be the case.

And from whose point of view is it 'unnecessary'?

Everyone's other than those who can provide tangible and credible proof that it is "necessary", even if only for them.

I wonder if we could also keep summer all year round? It's very inconvenient having to change the winter curtains every spring.

Well, that's what I would at least advocate in respect of the quaintly termed "summer time" - in other words, ditch GMT and have EST apply permanently throughout the currently British isles.

[Richard Tarleton]

I wonder if we could also keep summer all year round? It's very inconvenient having to change the winter curtains every spring.

I find these days the distinction between summer and winter clothing is more blurred. For 3 years until last summer much of my normal summer attire barely saw the light of day. This winter, it's been the turn of the cold weather gear not to get a look-in.

I have one of those watches that adjusts itself. You're supposed to leave it in a window pointing in the right direction, but this year I forgot, the watch was just sitting on the table. It still managed to adjust itself. Spooky, these electronic signals pulsing unseen through the house.

[french frank]

I don't have winter and summer clothes, just more clothing or less clothing. But my aunt used to have winter and summer curtains, heavy full length ones in winter - my job to call round and change them twice a year when summoned. Clocks are less trouble.

Apols, ahinton - I skimmed your message and didn't take in about the self adjusting appliances. Such is life: no one noticed that the forum clock was correct on Sunday morning. It's like being a sub-editor - people only notice the mistakes you make, never the mistakes you correct

[Richard Tarleton]

I don't have winter and summer clothes, just more clothing or less clothing.

I'm really thinking of (at one extreme) a lined LL Bean shirt, a Barbour sweater and a duvet jacket (all unwearable in summer), and at the other, T-shirts and, er, shorts. And sandals (without socks). This is an aspect of climate change which the IPCC report seems to have missed.

[EdgeleyRob]

Of course it can. I changed my clocks on Saturday evening and went to bed an hour earlier, not losing any sleep. It doesn't take much brain (I did it myself) to work out what suits people. There's no law saying everyone must change their clocks at 2am on the dot on the Sunday.

Now you tell me!