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  • LMcD
    Full Member
    • Sep 2017
    • 8637

    #16
    That was quite a tempest you called up, old friend.

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    • Serial_Apologist
      Full Member
      • Dec 2010
      • 37813

      #17
      Originally posted by LMcD View Post
      That was quite a tempest you called up, old friend.
      I wonder how many on this forum -myself included - have considered using our real names. I for one have; the problem would be all the rude, if not libellous things I've posted about named personalities. By hiding behind the nom de forum I was also interested to find out if there would be any about my actual self, which has proved not to have been the case. There was a serious moral lesson to be learned there, which I have to admit I conveniently overlooked.

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      • richardfinegold
        Full Member
        • Sep 2012
        • 7737

        #18
        Originally posted by Nick Armstrong View Post

        Sorry but touched to have caused concern!

        The avatar is someone else not known for his beaming smile: Dmitri Dmitrievich Shostakovich !
        Never would have guessed Shostakovich

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        • Richard Barrett
          Guest
          • Jan 2016
          • 6259

          #19
          Originally posted by Serial_Apologist View Post
          I for one have; the problem would be all the rude, if not libellous things I've posted about named personalities.
          One of the more distasteful things about the social media IMO is that people fling all sorts of insults around while hiding behind a pseudonym, saying things they would never dare to say to someone's face. I decided to use my own name so as not to lay myself open to being accused of that. Even so I've accidentally got myself into deep water once or twice. Anyway, welcome Nick!

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          • richardfinegold
            Full Member
            • Sep 2012
            • 7737

            #20
            Originally posted by Serial_Apologist View Post
            I wonder how many on this forum -myself included - have considered using our real names. I for one have; the problem would be all the rude, if not libellous things I've posted about named personalities. By hiding behind the nom de forum I was also interested to find out if there would be any about my actual self, which has proved not to have been the case. There was a serious moral lesson to be learned there, which I have to admit I conveniently overlooked.
            I used my real name because when I joined the Forum, about 8 years ago, I never imagined I would still be active for long. I was on vacation in the U.K. and inquiring about places to purchase CDs, and stumbled into a Forum post via Google

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            • jayne lee wilson
              Banned
              • Jul 2011
              • 10711

              #21
              Originally posted by Nick Armstrong View Post
              But the effect is the same... Decided to junk the nom de plume and just use the real one. So, Hi! I guess

              Excellent Nick.....

              If everybody did this I might consider a return myself........
              (So many New Releases uncommented this autumn...has none else been lifechanged by this one...https://www.qobuz.com/gb-en/album/zu...r67cyqpsvv6ab?)

              Lays waste to the Catalogue. 2020 RotY whatever else comes out...

              But anyway Nick.....F1 is pretty good so far isn't it? Italian/Tuscan GPs, Mugello, wow! (Hope your various protégés are OK...)

              I see there are 8 PMs..... do my best to read them but TheRealLife is pretty tough now....

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              • Nick Armstrong
                Host
                • Nov 2010
                • 26572

                #22
                Originally posted by jayne lee wilson View Post
                Excellent Nick.....

                If everybody did this I might consider a return myself........
                (So many New Releases uncommented this autumn...has none else been lifechanged by this one...https://www.qobuz.com/gb-en/album/zu...r67cyqpsvv6ab?)

                2020 RotY whatever else comes out...

                But anyway Nick.....F1 is pretty good so far isn't it? Italian/Tuscan GPs, Mugello, wow! (Hope your various protégés are OK...)

                I see there are 8 PMs..... do my best to read them but TheRealLife is pretty tough now....
                Delighted to have enticed you back, Jayne!!

                See my post re Chanson d’Amour from Sabine & Alexandre....

                And yes, good to have four-wheeled sports back!
                "...the isle is full of noises,
                Sounds and sweet airs, that give delight and hurt not.
                Sometimes a thousand twangling instruments
                Will hum about mine ears, and sometime voices..."

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                • Dave2002
                  Full Member
                  • Dec 2010
                  • 18035

                  #23
                  Originally posted by richardfinegold View Post
                  I used my real name because when I joined the Forum, about 8 years ago, I never imagined I would still be active for long. I was on vacation in the U.K. and inquiring about places to purchase CDs, and stumbled into a Forum post via Google
                  Really good to have you here, Richard, however you stumbled across the place.

                  Re nicknames or real names - I joined the precursor to this group, the BBC messageboards, using my real name, as did one or two others who are still here, so some of us may remember who we are!

                  Then the BBC suggested that we all switched to not using our real names, and many of us did that. I think the reasoning was that it could, or indeed had, led to various forms of abuse, personal or otherwise. Now we see different forms of abuse as mentioned by Richard B, but I do wonder whether some of the misgivings which the BBC had when suggesting the name changes are still valid, or is there a question of both approaches leading to abuses, but some are more significant and worrying than others? A topic for discussion, perhaps.

                  Some people use names here which are quite close to their real names, but others have names which are totally different.

                  Oh - yes, very nice to see that Jayne is still out there, whatever she decides to do.

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                  • Petrushka
                    Full Member
                    • Nov 2010
                    • 12308

                    #24
                    I'm not sure whether it's brave or foolhardy to post under your real name on forums. Privacy is one issue that would make me think twice because it is perfectly possible to find out a surprising amount of information about someone merely on the strength of the person's name and a few minutes on your laptop.

                    I once tested this theory out to a friend after casually meeting someone a few years back knowing nothing whatever about them but their name. Within minutes I had a LinkedIn resume of their entire educational and employment history. Facebook yielded masses of information including their's and their spouse's parent's names, photos, birth dates, wedding anniversary etc., etc. 192.com will give you phone numbers (if not ex-directory or mobile only), all addresses and you can view their homes on Google Street View. Banking details would be a lot harder but not impossible for those determined to find them.
                    "The sound is the handwriting of the conductor" - Bernard Haitink

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                    • Richard Barrett
                      Guest
                      • Jan 2016
                      • 6259

                      #25
                      Originally posted by Petrushka View Post
                      I'm not sure whether it's brave or foolhardy to post under your real name on forums.
                      You have a point about privacy, to be sure. I would never criticise anyone for not using their own name if that's something they're more comfortable with. Being a professional ahem entertainer brings up a number of other issues though. If I'm going to chat about what I do, my identity is going to be fairly clear to anyone who does a small amount of digging, whether I use a pseudonym or not. For example it didn't take me long to work out who MrGG is, even though he and I have never actually crossed paths. On the old BBC messageboards I started out with not only a pseudonym but a whole elaborate made-up persona to conceal my identity, but still some people worked it out!

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                      • Serial_Apologist
                        Full Member
                        • Dec 2010
                        • 37813

                        #26
                        Originally posted by jayne lee wilson View Post
                        Excellent Nick.....

                        If everybody did this I might consider a return myself........
                        (So many New Releases uncommented this autumn...has none else been lifechanged by this one...https://www.qobuz.com/gb-en/album/zu...r67cyqpsvv6ab?)

                        Lays waste to the Catalogue. 2020 RotY whatever else comes out...

                        But anyway Nick.....F1 is pretty good so far isn't it? Italian/Tuscan GPs, Mugello, wow! (Hope your various protégés are OK...)

                        I see there are 8 PMs..... do my best to read them but TheRealLife is pretty tough now....
                        Jayne it's so good just to see you back on the forum I hope you (for one) won't be further put off by the likes of me sticking to our forum names. Your departure, alongside a number of other greatly respected regulars, was I hope a wake-up call with regards to the way we have treated people here, as well as using anonymity as a cover for disparagements directed elsewhere. Dave 2002 and Petrushka have raised matters to do with personal security which had not occurred to me, and which tend to support anonymity. I would hope that lessons have at last been learned - the sometime rancour here seems to have gone, but in any case I would argue that for the sake of free speech there is nothing wrong with constructive criticism where it counts, while reserving stronger words to where and whom they apply.

                        My best wishes.

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                        • Pulcinella
                          Host
                          • Feb 2014
                          • 11062

                          #27
                          There's a fair bit in my About me Biography, maybe enough to track me down if anyone was really interested!
                          I've met some Forum members (including Nick, previously known as Caliban!) and I've often exchanged my real name (at least my given name if not surname) with others through PMs, or through personal emails (used when sending material that I wouldn't know how to send in a PM even if it was possible).
                          I hope I'm not rude: direct and blunt sometimes (but I was like that before I moved to Yorkshire, so no jokes about that, please!).

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                          • Serial_Apologist
                            Full Member
                            • Dec 2010
                            • 37813

                            #28
                            Originally posted by Pulcinella View Post
                            There's a fair bit in my About me Biography, maybe enough to track me down if anyone was really interested!
                            I've met some Forum members (including Nick, previously known as Caliban!) and I've often exchanged my real name (at least my given name if not surname) with others through PMs, or through personal emails (used when sending material that I wouldn't know how to send in a PM even if it was possible).
                            I hope I'm not rude: direct and blunt sometimes (but I was like that before I moved to Yorkshire, so no jokes about that, please!).
                            Oh yes, definitely that!

                            But as I remember they would say in Bristol, it takes two to tangle!

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                            • Tony Halstead
                              Full Member
                              • Nov 2010
                              • 1717

                              #29
                              How do you do that, Nick? Is it a simple process or did you have to re-register?

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                              • french frank
                                Administrator/Moderator
                                • Feb 2007
                                • 30455

                                #30
                                Originally posted by Tony View Post
                                How do you do that, Nick? Is it a simple process or did you have to re-register?
                                He asked an administrator. It has to be done down in the admin bunker.
                                It isn't given us to know those rare moments when people are wide open and the lightest touch can wither or heal. A moment too late and we can never reach them any more in this world.

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