Politics & Current Affairs board

[french frank]

If it deters the knowledgeable and honest posters from participating as well as the squabblers and grandstanders then it's a pity imo.

I agree - my view is that people were given an opportunity and they blew it.

There is currently a new thread in P&CA about the rights and wrongs - given the news story today - of HS2.

[Nick Armstrong]

I thought it obvious that it was my opinion, Cali.

But couched in the language of statements of fact, as if you're laying down a truth which is capable of no contrary view - it's that style of discussion that leads to confrontation and ill-feeling - in my opinion...

[Anna]

The fact that so few want to continue when discussion is removed to a less obvious place seems to suggest (and I had a tiny, tiny suspicion) that some posters were more interested in grandstanding to the cheers of their supporters than discussion of what I feel to be very serious subjects.

As I remarked on another thread, there is obviously a high degree of co-dependency, (not to mention passive/aggressive tendencies), on the P&CA threads, in the circumstances I think french frank has done the right thing although it's a terrible shame for those posters who contributed thoughtful and interesting views and wished to debate important topics

[Nick Armstrong]

posters who contributed thoughtful and interesting views and wished to debate important topics

Of course, they still can - and one hopes in a less co-dependent passive/aggressive atmos!

[teamsaint]

Of course, they still can - and one hopes in a less co-dependent passive/aggressive atmos!

can the mods provide a " non co dependent passive /aggressive" smiley please?

or perhaps an " I'll get my coat" smiley !

[Nick Armstrong]

or perhaps an " I'll get my coat" smiley !

This is the closest I can get:

[teamsaint]

This is the closest I can get:

That is easily good enough. No wonder you are a mod !!

[Flosshilde]

Of course, they still can - and one hopes in a less co-dependent passive/aggressive atmos!

But if threads & new posts don't appear on the 'New posts' page, nor on the 'forums' page, how do they know if there is a discussion they want to contribute to? Perhaps people starting a thread should post an alert on Platform 3?

[MrGongGong]

But if threads & new posts don't appear on the 'New posts' page, nor on the 'forums' page, how do they know if there is a discussion they want to contribute to? Perhaps people starting a thread should post an alert on Platform 3?

I think this is probably why folk aren't there
If ones normal pattern is to click on "What's new" or "New Posts" (which seem to have the same function ?) then going to the forum then opening the P&CA board etc really is a bit of a faff ........

[Nick Armstrong]

I think this is probably why folk aren't there
If ones normal pattern is to click on "What's new" or "New Posts" (which seem to have the same function ?) then going to the forum then opening the P&CA board etc really is a bit of a faff ........

Not with the link on the left hand side-bar. If you feel like a political debate, it's one click away. If you don't, no worries.

I think this is probably why folk aren't there

But they are - there's a new thread started half 11 today with 16 posts. Go for it 2Gongs, it's not much effort to get there, if you want to.

[Serial_Apologist]

Of course, they still can - and one hopes in a less co-dependent passive/aggressive atmos!

Probably the best way to be passive-aggressive in a PC way is to lie down on the floor and let everybody walk all over you.

[french frank]

But if threads & new posts don't appear on the 'New posts' page, nor on the 'forums' page, how do they know if there is a discussion they want to contribute to? Perhaps people starting a thread should post an alert on Platform 3?

They find out if there's anything new on the main forum by clicking on What's New? on the homepage; and (as I think Caliban was saying) they find out if there's anything new in P&CA by clicking on the dedicated link in the homepage sidebar. One click for both from the homepage. If people can't be bothered to do that, they can't be very interested - as indeed most members won't be.

[eighthobstruction]

If people can't be bothered to do that, they can't be very interested - as indeed most members won't be.

....and some of us will be waving and drowning....

[jean]

...If you feel like a political debate, it's one click away...

But not

If ones normal pattern is to click on "What's new" or "New Posts"...

[Mr Pee]

They find out if there's anything new on the main forum by clicking on What's New? on the homepage; and (as I think Caliban was saying) they find out if there's anything new in P&CA by clicking on the dedicated link in the homepage sidebar. One click for both from the homepage. If people can't be bothered to do that, they can't be very interested - as indeed most members won't be.

I think "most members" are not terribly interested in a lot of things that are discussed here. I hardly ever look at The Choir, The Early Music Show, Hear and Now, Jazz, or World Music, for example, and I am sure that there are many forums that the same few members regularly contribute to and others barely glance at. But I don't see that as a reason to marginalise them, as has happened with P+CA.

( I am aware this post has left me open to charges of having narrow tastes, but there you go.....).