Politics & Current Affairs board

[teamsaint]

I'm going to introduce religion here. I have heard Protestantism described as the 'unnerving suspicion that someone, somewhere might be enjoying themselves'. It somehow feels apposite...

And to introduce a European note,The French probably wouldn't be too surprised at this very British distaste for Politics......

[Sir Velo]

I'm going to introduce religion here. I have heard Protestantism described as the 'unnerving suspicion that someone, somewhere might be enjoying themselves'. It somehow feels apposite...

It's a peculiar enjoyment which involves taking pot shots at others, and rehearsing the same points ad infinitum, ad nauseam.

By the same token, I assume you're in favour of legalising gang warfare? After all, it's only among themselves, and they seem to enjoy it.

[Beef Oven!]

I'm going to introduce religion here. I have heard Protestantism described as the 'unnerving suspicion that someone, somewhere might be enjoying themselves'. It somehow feels apposite...

Winston Churchill said "Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy, its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery". Very appropriate.

I used to be a socialist and technically I'm a Protestant, but I've rarely been miserable and mostly enjoy myself!

[teamsaint]

I can understand why FF and others at FoR3 might not want to be associated with some of the silliness that has been displayed on some threads in the past.

But I really cannot work out how those threads affect regular board members in a negative way. They are VERY easy to avoid.

Re the nature of board posting generally, bad news sells.
Look at a football board for proof. A run of bad defeats, and a Football team board is over run with comments. A good win and and far, far fewer are posting.
A decent lunchtime concert on R3 can pass by without a single comment, but one more repetition of the Blue Danube on " Breakfast".....

[teamsaint]

Winston Churchill said "Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy, its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery". Very appropriate.

I used to be a socialist and technically I'm a Protestant, but I've rarely been miserable and mostly enjoy myself!

You are Tony Blair, and I claim my Five pounds.

[Mr Pee]

Have you always been such a dick or did it come to you later in life ?

The above was directed at me, and from a thread about the Henry Wood Fantasia on British Sea Songs.

So bad behaviour is not just restricted to discussions about politics.

[ahinton]

You are Tony Blair, and I claim my Five pounds.

Nice one - but Tony Blair "technically a Protestant"?!?...

[Pabmusic]

It's a peculiar enjoyment which involves taking pot shots at others, and rehearsing the same points ad infinitum, ad nauseam.

By the same token, I assume you're in favour of legalising gang warfare? After all, it's only among themselves, and they seem to enjoy it.

~Oh dear, the perfect example of a straw man fallacy. I'm not in favour of gang warfare, nor was I arguing that one should be.

[teamsaint]

Nice one - but Tony Blair "technically a Protestant"?!?...

ok, my bad.....WAS technically etc etc.

anyway, once a protestant , always a protestant, i would have thought !

[jean]

Have you always been such a dick or did it come to you later in life ?

The above was directed at me, and from a thread about the Henry Wood Fantasia on British Sea Songs.

So bad behaviour is not just restricted to discussions about politics.

It was indeed - but only after you had written

You just have to get used to Mr.GG's patronising tone and overwhelming belief in his own intellectual superiority. He just can't help it.

So bad behaviour is not just restricted to the bad behaviour of other people

[Mr Pee]

It was indeed - but only after you had written


So bad behaviour is not just restricted to the bad behaviour of other people

Which was in response to this:-

what on earth is an "annoying" development anyway ?
Do you mean having to actually listen to something you haven't heard before ?

Which I thought extremely condescending and patronising, suggesting, based on no evidence whatsoever- that the poster- not me- was a stick in the mud who did not want to hear anything new.

And I am sure most would anyway agree that my post was not on the same level as the personalised abuse I quoted above.

[Sir Velo]

the perfect example of a straw man fallacy

With respect, you're as usual taking the argument too literally and, thereby, missing the point. It's actually not a straw man fallacy anyway, since it's clear that I was exaggerating for effect, and not attributing that POV to you, although, thinking about it....

I'm not in favour of gang warfare, nor was I arguing that one should be.

Why not? If they're only hurting each other, what harm are they doing to the rest of us? I mean if they keep out the way of decent, law abiding citizens why shouldn't they be allowed their fun? You're really guilty of double standards, I'm afraid!

[scottycelt]

Frankly, this is disingenuous as is made clear by the fact that you reject a sidebar as being too hidden away. Most forum members go to the "What's New" tab which is where all threads, across the spectrum of fora, are shown in descending order of last time a post occurred. Consequently, the so-called politics and current affairs "debates" are frequently to the fore. In fact, one won't know which particular forum they're on, unless one specifically looks.



To continue your analogy, it's more akin to having a noisy, drunken foul-mouthed group of neighbours who get going around about 10pm and don't stop until way until the next morning, with some interludes of calm before another shouting match starts up sporadically throughout the following day. Impossible to avoid, however much one wishes otherwise.

I've never mentioned a sidebar or anything being hidden away. I've rejected nothing, in fact, quite the opposite. I do vaguely recollect a 'What's New' tab but it no longer appears on my screen or is extremely well hidden away itself!

I do agree the shouting-matches can get rather silly and childish. The name-calling and insults reflect the lack of any real argument of the 'hurlers' and any innocent victims should feel vindicated rather than aggrieved.

I have every sympathy for the administrators here and can well understand and appreciate the point being made. It is no business of mine to tell them how to run this forum which I find excellent in almost every respect. The time and effort involved in administering a forum such as this must be considerable and I congratulate all involved. Any decision made by them will be considered in the best interests of the boards.

However, the forums one dislikes are easily avoidable and the Politics & Current Affairs forum was clearly marked like all the others. Whilst I can understand the concerns and fully respect the decision of those who run this messageboard I find it impossible to feel much sympathy for those who consciously click on a link marked Politics & Current Affairs and complain about the awfulness of some of the contributors and the lack of music content!

[jean]

And I am sure most would anyway agree that my post was not on the same level as the personalised abuse I quoted above.

That's just the trouble, though. Nobody recognises the abuse they dish out as abuse.

That's how things escalate.

[Pabmusic]

Why not? If they're only hurting each other, what harm are they doing to the rest of us? I mean if they keep out the way of decent, law abiding citizens why shouldn't they be allowed their fun? You're really guilty of double standards, I'm afraid!

No. Not at all. You are attempting to compare gang warfare with lively (and - I agree - sometimes over-the-top) banter on the internet. They are not comparable, which is why I pointed out the straw man fallacy you adopted (you accuse me of supporting an extreme position and then attack that position and not what I actually said). It's a basic logical fallacy, not something I've just made up.