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[Serial_Apologist]

Strange that posters are not visiting the P & CA board....is there any reason for that??....http://www.for3.org/forums/forumdisp...urrent-Affairs

Thanks eighth - I lost the link after writing it down on a piece of paper yesterday.

[eighthobstruction]

It is displayed on the Forum Frontpage....in the Left hand Margin (under OTHER LINKS)....or Bookmark to toolbar....http://www.for3.org/forums/forum.php

[ahinton]

Actually I meant DOG

Which, as it absolutely isn't one (IMV), I'd go rescue it from the waves! Ah, well...

[scottycelt]

Strange that posters are not visiting the P & CA board....is there any reason for that??....http://www.for3.org/forums/forumdisp...urrent-Affairs

Would never want to be associated with that lot, 8O ...

[french frank]

Would never want to be associated with that lot, 8O ...

Quite right. MrGG did say on this thread that if anyone wanted a "civilised" debating society, they should go elsewhere. It looks like the 'elsewhere' that they should go to ...

[Richard Tarleton]

Chris Heaton-Harris MP at the PAC grilling of Patten and Co yesterday likened it to a bizarre game of Whack-a-Mole. This must seem a bit like that to you ff - you whack a couple of threads and this one looks set to run and run. No chance this could also be moved to P&CA I don't suppose?

[MrGongGong]

No chance this could also be moved to P&CA I don't suppose?

Why do that ?
I thought we were supposed to be discussing music ?

[eighthobstruction]

Could keep title....get rid of text....add a STICKYMESSAGE that is locked to further contribution,keep it displayed for a couple of weeks saying how to find P & CA....so people can get used to it....

[Richard Tarleton]

Sorry - we are already - I was confused. It is still at the top of "What's New", except on Scotty's computer obviously :-)

[french frank]

No chance this could also be moved to P&CA I don't suppose?

I was waiting for everyone to say what the had to say on the subject. But since you mention it ... a few points:

1) This isn't just a matter of 'People don't have to read the threads if they find them irritating': that's irrelevant. The discussions are read by guests and give a particular impression of the forum. A Facebook message came through last week saying: "I looked at your sister site [sic] and it was all about politics."

2) JLW has made (I think) one contribution to this thread:

"A[s] the one who began those two threads which caused so much upset, no-one could have been more put off than I was by their degeneration into repetitive titfortat insults, which is why I stopped contributing to them."

That just about sums up my view.

3) The problem is not with the topics: it's with the posters.

[jean]

2) JLW has made (I think) one contribution to this thread:

"A[s] the one who began those two threads which caused so much upset, no-one could have been more put off than I was by their degeneration into repetitive titfortat insults, which is why I stopped contributing to them."

That just about sums up my view.

3) The problem is not with the topics: it's with the posters.

But which posters?

The second post on JLW's second thread was this - now hived off so that it can't be seen in its original context:

Oh give it a rest for God's sake. Why start yet another thread on this?

You could have just made this a new post on the other homophobia thread, but no, you had to launch a new one.

Does the fault lie with posters who post in good faith, or with those who tell them to give it a rest every time they do?

I pointed out recently that a long subthread had developed on the topic of gay marriage - and it was not started by anyone in favour.

[teamsaint]

to get to "Platform 3", you have to scroll past eight specifically Classical music threads, half of the board total number of threads.

one thing about political/social issues is that they can be quite fast moving, if they are in the news, and thus generate a lot of posts quickly, whereas discussion about music often takes place in a more leisurely fashion.

It would be interesting to list the top 20 threads, and see how many pages there are for each.

i suspect we might end up banning talking about the weather/word games/football.....in Britain !!!!

(looking at number of "views" might be instructive too !!)

[Flosshilde]

But which posters?

The second post on JLW's second thread was this - now hived off so that it can't be seen in its original context:

Originally Posted by Mr Pee
Oh give it a rest for God's sake. Why start yet another thread on this?

You could have just made this a new post on the other homophobia thread, but no, you had to launch a new one.

Does the fault lie with posters who post in good faith, or with those who tell them to give it a rest every time they do?

Especially when that person has said on this thread that if people don't like a thread/topic they needn't read it ?

[french frank]

Does the fault lie with posters who post in good faith, or with those who tell them to give it a rest every time they do?

Generally speaking, with the latter. Though I also think some sensitivity could be brought bear when it seems that a wider irritation or restiveness is being caused.

I felt that when regular topics were being started on the subject of immigration that they should be 'given a rest' - not because the subject itself wss not worthy of debate but because every time it was started it ended up with a slanging match and it didn't take a lot of intelligence to work out that they got nowhere. Certain people feel strongly about certain topics, whether it's immigration, the EU, religion or gay rights. Others strongly disagree and experience shows that any attempt at 'discussion' is a lost cause before it begins.

There are many wrongs, injustices and outrages in the world: it's a matter of balance as to how often related topics are started and it's a matter of common sense to work out whether the same people are going to end up having the same arguments. [Having said that, on this forum the same thing could happen on threads that start out on the subject of knitting.]

[teamsaint]

people needling each other is a problem.

couldn't resist sorry.

I'll listen to some more Glazunov to repent.