Politics sub-forum

[salymap]

If the Politics sub-forum isolates the bigheads who wish to change everything I'm all for it. I have seen and heard enough of the subject on the general boards. Like others I sometimes read but don't post.

Some people want to get rid of Stormy Weather and the boards that cover things they themselves are not interested in. Music is our reason for being here but the other trivia boards are the cement that hold it all together. If the dissatisfied few are on the Politics thread it will be easier to avoid them. Just my humble opinion.

[amateur51]

If the Politics sub-forum isolates the bigheads who wish to change everything I'm all for it. I have seen and heard enough of the subject on the general boards. Like others I sometimes read but don't post.

Some people want to get rid of Stormy Weather and the boards that cover things they themselves are not interested in. Music is our reason for being here but the other trivia boards are the cement that hold it all together. If the dissatisfied few are on the Politics thread it will be easier to avoid them. Just my humble opinion.

Exactly, salymap

Good morning btw

[french frank]

If the Politics sub-forum isolates the bigheads who wish to change everything I'm all for it. I have seen and heard enough of the subject on the general boards. Like others I sometimes read but don't post.

The idea is less to 'isolate' anyone on the proposed forum: it's to exclude people who personalise their comments by making snide or rude remarks about other contributors but contribute nothing themselves. A forum can permanently exclude such people; a thread can't.

Sad to say, I'm afraid if I have any kind of reputation at all for being fair-minded, it would soon be in tatters . Several of those who I would regard as forum friends would be the first to be kicked off , along with others.

Some people want to get rid of Stormy Weather and the boards that cover things they themselves are not interested in. Music is our reason for being here but the other trivia boards are the cement that hold it all together. If the dissatisfied few are on the Politics thread it will be easier to avoid them. Just my humble opinion.

As long as the Radio 3 Forum overall is clearly seen to be focused on BBC/Radio 3 matters, and 'matters arising', Stormy Weather and Platform 3 will be safe. If 'matters not arising' seem to be taking over, I would offer to sell the whole forum for sixpence to whoever wanted to take it over and move it to another server.


I think that a serious discussion focused on Marxism is absolutely appropriate for this forum, and that it trivialises it to reduce it to right-left bottle-throwing.

[Nick Armstrong]

If the Politics sub-forum isolates the bigheads who wish to change everything I'm all for it. I have seen and heard enough of the subject on the general boards. Like others I sometimes read but don't post.

Some people want to get rid of Stormy Weather and the boards that cover things they themselves are not interested in. Music is our reason for being here but the other trivia boards are the cement that hold it all together. If the dissatisfied few are on the Politics thread it will be easier to avoid them. Just my humble opinion.

As sensible and true as anything I've ever read on the Forum

[salymap]

Thanks ff, glad you are keeping the 'cement' threads and shall stay well clear of politics myself. I've seen/heard enough of politicians in a long life to realise my two-pennorth won't change anything.

[french frank]

As sensible and true as anything I've ever read on the Forum

Well, except that I don't think that it need be an either/or: no reason why people who are interested in political theory shouldn't be ready to indulge in lighter chat.

However, I would stress that this shouldn't be about here-today-gone-tomorrow (with due acknowledgement to J. Nott) politicians or party politics; government-bashers (or coalition apologists ) should still congregate on Platform 3.

[heliocentric]

I would just like to say I'm very disappointed by the closure of the "Plebs/Toffs" thread. We are all intelligent people able to find our way through the different sorts of exchanges which weave through that thread, and I think its closure is heavy-handed and proprietorial in a way that casts a shadow over the possibility of full and frank exchanges of views. If that's the kind of forum you want to have, that's up to you of course.

[french frank]

I would just like to say I'm very disappointed by the closure of the "Plebs/Toffs" thread. We are all intelligent people able to find our way through the different sorts of exchanges which weave through that thread, and I think its closure is heavy-handed and proprietorial in a way that casts a shadow over the possibility of full and frank exchanges of views. If that's the kind of forum you want to have, that's up to you of course.

The closure is purely temporary. I've spent a long time sorting out the threads - which earlier in the discussion I was asked to do.

All discussions will be reopened - as I thought I made clear. Any other comments from anyone?

[amateur51]

The closure is purely temporary. I've spent a long time sorting out the threads - which earlier in the discussion I was asked to do.

All discussions will be reopened - as I thought I made clear. Any other comments from anyone?

I'm getting rather concerned that apparently whenever 'someone' asks for a thread to be closed, it is.

If I asked for a thread to be re-opened, would it happen? I doubt it sincerely.

[french frank]

I'm getting rather concerned that apparently whenever 'someone' asks for a thread to be closed, it is.

If I asked for a thread to be re-opened, would it happen? I doubt it sincerely.

Nobody asked for the thread to be closed. It was a temporary administrative action while I moved the political discussion to the new forum. The old one was then reopened for business. I'm a bit bemused as to what the problem was with that.

However, there is an archetypal folktale which goes like this:

A possible tragedy/disaster/misfortune is envisaged

An action is taken to avert the possible tragedy/disaster/misfortune happening

That action actually precipitates the tragedy/disaster/misfortune.


I thought that people who wanted to discuss political matters seriously would get fed up interruptions and leave the forum

So I provided a special forum to encourage people who were interested in discussing the ideas to do so uninterrupted.

One of those who I thought would be the main beneficiaries promptly resigned.

You get a similar pattern in Calderón's La Vida es Sueño ....

[amateur51]

Nobody asked for the thread to be closed. It was a temporary administrative action while I moved the political discussion to the new forum. The old one was then reopened for business. I'm a bit bemused as to what the problem was with that.

However, there is an archetypal folktale which goes like this:

A possible tragedy/disaster/misfortune is envisaged

An action is taken to avert the possible tragedy/disaster/misfortune happening

That action actually precipitates the tragedy/disaster/misfortune.


I thought that people who wanted to discuss political matters seriously would get fed up interruptions and leave the forum

So I provided a special forum to encourage people who were interested in discussing the ideas to do so uninterrupted.

One of those who I thought would be the main beneficiaries promptly resigned.

You get a similar pattern in Calderón's La Vida es Sueño ....

You tell me that no-one complained so I accept that, french frank but I'm certain that I've read something akin to that today ... another thread perhaps?

You're damned if you do & damned if you don't

[french frank]

I still don't understand your point, amateur. As you can see by the timing, I had already posted/bumped that the thread had been reopened for business before you posted your message above.

[amateur51]

I still don't understand your point, amateur. As you can see by the timing, I had already posted/bumped that the thread had been reopened for business before you posted your message above.

Blimey french frank, now you're asking - to which point do you refer?

[french frank]

Blimey french frank, now you're asking - to which point do you refer?

This one:

I'm getting rather concerned that apparently whenever 'someone' asks for a thread to be closed, it is.

The thread was closed for the time it took me to sort through 400+ posts and switch them over. Then I reopened it. The discussion had long since departed from the original topic and it's not unprecedented to divide threads. I closed one (saying it would be reopened) and opened it again as quickly as I could. So what's the 'concern' about?

[Serial_Apologist]

Will the capitalism v Socialism thread re-open, ff? There was a ongoing discussion there.