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  • french frank
    Administrator/Moderator
    • Feb 2007
    • 30512

    #16
    Originally posted by Anna View Post
    Hmm ........ well, free speech and all that. It's not the Ethics or Ideas part of the proposed new board that bothers me as the Religion aspect and the maulings that may result. However, at the mo it's 65/30 for having it on a trial basis and as we don't have a STV system here ..... it's for the majority to decide
    Well, on the old Classical Forum the question of The Existence of God came up now and again in one form or the other and made for long discussions. But back in those innocent days of internet youth we didn't tend to be nasty to each other as people can be now .
    It isn't given us to know those rare moments when people are wide open and the lightest touch can wither or heal. A moment too late and we can never reach them any more in this world.

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    • agingjb
      Full Member
      • Apr 2007
      • 156

      #17
      If this were, in a better world, a "Friends of the Third Program" forum, I don't think there would be much question that such a subforum would be appropriate - and perhaps a few other topics that even now Radio 3 does occasionally, and properly, cover.

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      • Serial_Apologist
        Full Member
        • Dec 2010
        • 37857

        #18
        Originally posted by french frank View Post
        Well, on the old Classical Forum the question of The Existence of God came up now and again in one form or the other and made for long discussions. But back in those innocent days of internet youth we didn't tend to be nasty to each other as people can be now .
        It's become a much more fraught issue as people disillusioned with Capitalism As She Has Turned Out turn to religion as some sort of security net.

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        • Serial_Apologist
          Full Member
          • Dec 2010
          • 37857

          #19
          Originally posted by John Bennett View Post
          If this were, in a better world, a "Friends of the Third Program" forum, I don't think there would be much question that such a subforum would be appropriate - and perhaps a few other topics that even now Radio 3 does occasionally, and properly, cover.
          Should the forum idea be rejected in the poll, people would still I take it be free to initiate a religious/ethical topic raised by a particular programme. The fact that this hasn't happened thus far, taken together with how the vote is currently going, suggests some of the anxieties opponents have expressed. They might also have seen what happened to the Religion forum on the Zetaboards.

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          • antongould
            Full Member
            • Nov 2010
            • 8836

            #20
            If there is no outright majority have we a Cameron and Clegg to step forward and guide us to the moral high ground?

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            • Serial_Apologist
              Full Member
              • Dec 2010
              • 37857

              #21
              Originally posted by antongould View Post
              If there is no outright majority have we a Cameron and Clegg to step forward and guide us to the moral high ground?
              I see I'm not the only one trying to influence the way the vote is going!

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              • french frank
                Administrator/Moderator
                • Feb 2007
                • 30512

                #22
                Originally posted by John Bennett View Post
                If this were, in a better world, a "Friends of the Third Program" forum, I don't think there would be much question that such a subforum would be appropriate - and perhaps a few other topics that even now Radio 3 does occasionally, and properly, cover.
                I wonder if Rowan Williams and Richard Dawkins could hold the airwaves like Copleston and Russell? Just looked out a quote from The Envy of the World: "[Sir William] Haley listened to the broadcast and thought much of it 'perhaps a little too difficult for the broad run of even a Third Programme audience. Kant, Plotinus, Sartre and Leibnitz, quoted and poured out at that rate, took some absorbing.' "

                Oh, les beaux jours!
                It isn't given us to know those rare moments when people are wide open and the lightest touch can wither or heal. A moment too late and we can never reach them any more in this world.

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                • french frank
                  Administrator/Moderator
                  • Feb 2007
                  • 30512

                  #23
                  Originally posted by Serial_Apologist View Post
                  They might also have seen what happened to the Religion forum on the Zetaboards.
                  Ah, it happened there too, did it?

                  Of course, the Arts and Ideas board is open for the expression of ... ideas.
                  It isn't given us to know those rare moments when people are wide open and the lightest touch can wither or heal. A moment too late and we can never reach them any more in this world.

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                  • pilamenon
                    Full Member
                    • Nov 2010
                    • 454

                    #24
                    I've voted no. There's enough religion and ethics under Platform 3. The number of sub-boards is also fragmenting the site too much for my taste. I preferred it when we just had the old BBC headings, it was easier.

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                    • doversoul1
                      Ex Member
                      • Dec 2010
                      • 7132

                      #25
                      Absolutely, definitely NO for the same reason as DracoM. Religion is not rational by nature (please don’t start a discussion here), and these internet forums do funny things to people’s minds. Look what has just happened to a mere talk about Radio3 presenters.

                      I am interested in the subject and would read any such threads on existing boards. I’m not quite sure what the difference is but somehow someone opening a thread of religious subject on Platform3 feels safe but would feel very differently about a dedicated board for the subject (I know this is not rational ).

                      I have voted.

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                      • Curalach

                        #26
                        I also have voted against. I fear that the nature of this congenial place would change to the extent that I would no longer wish to participate.

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                        • Serial_Apologist
                          Full Member
                          • Dec 2010
                          • 37857

                          #27
                          Originally posted by french frank View Post
                          Ah, it happened there too, did it?

                          Of course, the Arts and Ideas board is open for the expression of ... ideas.
                          Since "changing hands" I haven't been checking there, French Frank - much too busy on here! - but the Religion forum turned into a puerile slanging match, and that was one of the reasons I stopped posting there.

                          I've been trying to find a youtube of Dawkins talking to Williams: the one I found seems to have been faulty. Please bear with me...
                          Last edited by Serial_Apologist; 04-08-11, 20:52. Reason: On second thoughts, maybe I shouldn't

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                          • Steerpike
                            Full Member
                            • Nov 2010
                            • 101

                            #28
                            I'm with Anna's comment about free speech and all that. But that's looked after by other boards and the ability to create a new one dedicated to what you like. I've voted against - the atmosphere here is too good to spoil.

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                            • Eine Alpensinfonie
                              Host
                              • Nov 2010
                              • 20575

                              #29
                              I voted Yes, but I'm persuaded by the arguments presented by the No Campaign that they are probably correct. I would, therefore ask for my vote to be changed, if my original vote is traceable electronically.

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                              • Petrushka
                                Full Member
                                • Nov 2010
                                • 12332

                                #30
                                Originally posted by pilamenon View Post
                                I've voted no. There's enough religion and ethics under Platform 3. The number of sub-boards is also fragmenting the site too much for my taste. I preferred it when we just had the old BBC headings, it was easier.
                                I also have voted against and while I agree with most of the comments of the 'anti' camp (particularly Anna and DracoM), Pilamenon captures my feeling best in this comment.

                                Haven't those keen to have this 'Religion and Ethics' board got their own version of FF to set one up? Don't see why we should act as a haven for refugees from elsewhere.
                                Last edited by Petrushka; 04-08-11, 21:42.
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