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  • french frank
    Administrator/Moderator
    • Feb 2007
    • 30511

    Future of the forum

    The coming week or so, in the wake of the successful launch and when a lot of people are around, is probably the right moment to broach the question of the future management of the forum and the way it might be run.

    I’m sure you realise that – even if it were desirable – one person can’t keep pace with all that needs to be done on a daily basis. It’s also my feeling that, as there seem to be a lot of new ‘faces’, lurkers perhaps on the old boards, it would be unfair (and short-sighted) to leap into some kind of election process which would exclude them because they aren’t yet as well known.

    I have a proposal that we first form a General Council (eugh, call it what you like) made up of a pool of all those who think they will be posting here regularly and are keen enough to want to contribute to the forum as a flourishing, long-lasting group. It would be a small commitment from those who have enjoyed and benefited from the old boards, and hope to do so from these. From the General Council, a smaller, electable, group of moderators/managers could be set up to establish, among other things, what the relationship should be between the forum and the technical administrators (Mark and me) and how House Rules should be established.

    The forum has been set up, stably in every sense: there are no onerous tasks, such as Hon. Treasurer, Hon. Secy or legal responsibilities, but there are various ways in which we can all help the forum on its way. It’s another aspect of cooperative action, like the forum discussions – the more participants the better.

    My second suggestion: I believe that in the successful running of the forum a vital ingredient is a proper hosting system. Each category might have hosts who will look out for new members and make them feel part of the group; and they could ensure that their messageboards are replenished with news and new topics to discuss (well aware that the jass bored might wish to resist all attempts to organise it). I hope this would reduce the need for any imposed moderation, but … messageboards are messageboards …

    So, as a start, would people show their support for the forum by indicating here (or PM me with any queries) that they would be part of a (self-selecting) General Council. Well, provided people don't think it's a bad idea

    [I post this in some trepidation, remembering the short-lived existence of the Phrenological Society of Cincinnati ]
    Last edited by french frank; 01-12-10, 17:41.
    It isn't given us to know those rare moments when people are wide open and the lightest touch can wither or heal. A moment too late and we can never reach them any more in this world.
  • johnb
    Full Member
    • Mar 2007
    • 2903

    #2
    In general this seems reasonable and, quite obviously, the burden of running the forum should be shared.

    My only comment is that, if there are hosts for individual sections, the hosting should be done with a *very* light touch and only as necessary - otherwise it might be irritating and people might feel they are being 'organised'. (We are a bolshie lot.)

    It might also be good if the General Council in general was fairly low-key.

    One of the benefits of this forum is that people from the old R3 MBs feel it is 'theirs' (whilst, of course, realising that it is FF's and Mark's) so there is a balance to be struck between 'organising' and allowing folk to get on with things.

    Just a tupenny-worth from one of the awkward squad.

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    • french frank
      Administrator/Moderator
      • Feb 2007
      • 30511

      #3
      johnb - I agree about the 'light touch' in the hosting. Can't say I'm quite comfortable with The Bull's: Hullo, come on in, pull up a chair, what can I get you? . Each forum develops its own style...

      I think I'm trying to suggest that it is FF and Mark who should be low key. There are other reasons why this should be thought of as the community's forum, not ours.

      (I hope this is also an offer ... ??? )
      It isn't given us to know those rare moments when people are wide open and the lightest touch can wither or heal. A moment too late and we can never reach them any more in this world.

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      • french frank
        Administrator/Moderator
        • Feb 2007
        • 30511

        #4
        The offers are coming in, by the way. People are very modest

        I think we ought to have an initial 'meeting' of at least 50 ...
        It isn't given us to know those rare moments when people are wide open and the lightest touch can wither or heal. A moment too late and we can never reach them any more in this world.

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        • Anna

          #5
          I agree with johnb in general. This is a community message board run by a collective. I am not sure a Host for every section is necessary. Going back to the old CMOR3 and the later MB, the only Hosts who were interactive were Graeme Kay (classical) and Pete Marsh (jazz) and they had immense knowledge of their subject.

          Moderation is clearly an issue, which had degenerated into a farce on R3, being outsourced to a call centre in Watford (apologies to all citizens of Watford), but when House Rules are explicit it is rather like r3ok, three strikes and you are banned, after consultation with the Moderators, of which there are three. Perhaps it would be best to have a greater number of Mods than that (not everyone can log in to a computer all day and read all posts)

          But yes, a light touch and no need to stifle vigorous debate unless it oversteps the mark I think.
          Last edited by Guest; 01-12-10, 18:37.

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          • french frank
            Administrator/Moderator
            • Feb 2007
            • 30511

            #6
            Originally posted by Anna View Post
            I am not sure a Host for every section is necessary. Going back to the old CMOR3 and the later MB, the only Hosts who were interactive were Graeme Kay (classical) and Pete Marsh (jazz)
            The reason I mentioned that was because I had already had two offers of help where people were keen to stick in their smaller worlds. We have formed our 'sub-communities' already and groups like that can appear a bit cliquish to outsiders, even though their contributions are actually very welcome.
            It isn't given us to know those rare moments when people are wide open and the lightest touch can wither or heal. A moment too late and we can never reach them any more in this world.

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            • Anna

              #7
              Originally posted by french frank View Post
              The reason I mentioned that was because I had already had two offers of help where people were keen to stick in their smaller worlds. We have formed our 'sub-communities' already and groups like that can appear a bit cliquish to outsiders, even though their contributions are actually very welcome.
              Oh well, I didn't realise that of course. That's really good that people are coming forward, good on them! Would that perhaps Jazz, World Music and CE, always a bone of contention on R3? Are these sub-communities accessible btw?

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              • french frank
                Administrator/Moderator
                • Feb 2007
                • 30511

                #8
                Originally posted by Anna View Post
                Are these sub-communities accessible btw?
                Sorry, by sub-communities, I just meant the people who gather around those particular boards and don't necessarily post anywhere else.

                I think all three of the ones you mention are going very well so far .
                It isn't given us to know those rare moments when people are wide open and the lightest touch can wither or heal. A moment too late and we can never reach them any more in this world.

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                • Anna

                  #9
                  Originally posted by french frank View Post
                  Sorry, by sub-communities, I just meant the people who gather around those particular boards and don't necessarily post anywhere else.

                  I think all three of the ones you mention are going very well so far .
                  Oh good, CE is my must listen to. Oh Yes, call me Old Fashioned!! It is a Haven of Peace of a Wednesday afternoon. Anyway, getting off-topic now, this won't do at all. Back to the main subject.

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                  • Philidor

                    #10
                    Originally posted by french frank View Post
                    I have a proposal that we first form a General Council (eugh, call it what you like)
                    Great idea! But I prefer the term "Præsidium of the Supreme Soviet" or just plain "Politburo".

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                    • french frank
                      Administrator/Moderator
                      • Feb 2007
                      • 30511

                      #11
                      Originally posted by Philidor View Post
                      Great idea! But I prefer the term "Præsidium of the Supreme Soviet" or just plain "Politburo".

                      Yes, that's good. It's a smallish General Council at the moment. Perhaps I should have asked people to opt out instead of volunteering - the PMs would have filled my Inbox by now!

                      I must tell a story of My Life on the Stump at some point
                      It isn't given us to know those rare moments when people are wide open and the lightest touch can wither or heal. A moment too late and we can never reach them any more in this world.

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                      • Anna

                        #12
                        Originally posted by Philidor View Post
                        Great idea! But I prefer the term "Præsidium of the Supreme Soviet" or just plain "Politburo".

                        I prefer the term Kibbutz myself!

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                        • BBMmk2
                          Late Member
                          • Nov 2010
                          • 20908

                          #13
                          Or one of the communistioc communties eg in collective farming!!
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                          • aka Calum Da Jazbo
                            Late member
                            • Nov 2010
                            • 9173

                            #14
                            ff

                            i have just tried to send you a PM indicating willingness to participate in eugh etc but message seems to have disappeared! please accept this proxy.
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                            • french frank
                              Administrator/Moderator
                              • Feb 2007
                              • 30511

                              #15
                              akaCDJ - Msg eugh rec'd. Inbox was full!!! (That applies to the others who tried to PM - I've now started deleting)
                              It isn't given us to know those rare moments when people are wide open and the lightest touch can wither or heal. A moment too late and we can never reach them any more in this world.

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