New schedule changes 2018

[DracoM]

[cloughie]

Perhaps one might also ask why, in a programme entitled "Choir and Organ", we do not encounter them together.

Could have been worse - a fusion of Choral Evensong and The Organist Entertains!

[Globaltruth]

Rest looks VG - apart from un peu de daft re-titling. 'Music Planet' ? Erm......? Why not 'World Music on 3'?

the words 'World Music' (WM) are now seen as very passé by, ahem, World Music fans - think it is as simple as that. WM was always a marketing construct, and its time has gone. Think our forum registered the term Global JukeBox several years ago.... anyway we shall judge with our ears (there's a tricky image)

[Andrew Slater]

I was a bit quick to praise some proposed changes a few years ago, so I'll reserve judgement this time until after the pudding is served.

I've just looked at the schedule for Sunday the 8th: there's an Early Music Late - shaped hole in the evening, apparently replaced with something called 'Unclassified' (title not yet decided?), a showcase for new composers and performers, with Elizabeth Alker, which I think was announced in the changes. I assumed that it would replace the 'recital' / 'night music' filler, but has EML perhaps been a casualty which was not made clear in the announcement? (I presume there's no recital / night music on the 8th because the drama's an extra half-hour long.)

[french frank]

there's an Early Music Late - shaped hole in the evening, apparently replaced with something called 'Unclassified' (title not yet decided?)

Well-spotted (just in time ). I will query that.

We have seen changes to jazz (last time and this), world, speech/culture, but nothing yet to the large, painful bunions of classical music. Will they be next? Sunday Morning seems a definite step backwards in its format, Inside Music sounds like s step forward from Saturday Classics (I was listening to a podcast where AD described it, and it did sound more promising). Choir & Organ - we wait to see.

[doversoul1]

I was a bit quick to praise some proposed changes a few years ago, so I'll reserve judgement this time until after the pudding is served.

I've just looked at the schedule for Sunday the 8th: there's an Early Music Late - shaped hole in the evening, apparently replaced with something called 'Unclassified' (title not yet decided?), a showcase for new composers and performers, with Elizabeth Alker, which I think was announced in the changes. I assumed that it would replace the 'recital' / 'night music' filler, but has EML perhaps been a casualty which was not made clear in the announcement? (I presume there's no recital / night music on the 8th because the drama's an extra half-hour long.)

I was hoping that it meant no change. This is very sad.

[french frank]

I was hoping that it meant no change. This is very sad.

Looking through the press release again, the phrases 'relaunched' or 'refreshed' are used when an existing programme is being altered. 'Replaced' referred to Inside Music replacing Saturday Classics (where the replacement was an equivalent). Customarily, when a programme is simply being dropped that usually isn't mentioned - and there's no mention of Early Music Late. It may just be that Easter and the start of the new schedule have created a temporary disruption. However, the After Dark concept appears to be somewhat varied speech and music stuff with more in common with Late Junction - a 'zone' targeted on a 'younger' (under 55!) audience.

I will make it very clear that Early Music Late would be a great loss for the EM enthusiasts …

[doversoul1]

Looking through the press release again, the phrases 'relaunched' or 'refreshed' are used when an existing programme is being altered. 'Replaced' referred to Inside Music replacing Saturday Classics (where the replacement was an equivalent). Customarily, when a programme is simply being dropped that usually isn't mentioned - and there's no mention of Early Music Late. It may just be that Easter and the start of the new schedule have created a temporary disruption. However, the After Dark concept appears to be somewhat varied speech and music stuff with more in common with Late Junction - a 'zone' targeted on a 'younger' (under 55!) audience.

I will make it very clear that Early Music Late would be a great loss for the EM enthusiasts …

My heartfelt thanks, ff. But when did early music become a hobby for OAPs?

[french frank]

My heartfelt thanks, ff. But when did early music become a hobby for OAPs?

I think it's more the positive aspect of this new 'zone' rather than the negative of EML which is collateral damage.

[Old Grumpy]

Could have been worse - a fusion of Choral Evensong and The Organist Entertains!

Petroc announced on Br£@kf@$t* the other day that presentation of Choir and Organ is to be shared between SM-P and Roderick Williams starting on Easter Sunday - sounds potentially good news to me.


OG

* Apologies for using this kind of language at this hour on Good Friday!

[Lat-Literal]

though according to management, listener reaction to World on 3 corresponds with the forum info that I was given, so 'worldies' may well be better pleased with the new programme

I am not quite sure what this means.

I prefer live radio. It is now going to be recorded although I take the point about the greater likelihood of getting in further guests. The presenters are the same as before. Fair enough but we could do with four of them on rotation. Some male. Perhaps this will be addressed by the guest slots. There is no mention of Dr Duran. That's a pity. Ditto Mark Coles, Joe Boyd, Georgia Ruth, Mary Ann Kennedy and Nick Gold. I'm assuming that Mr Kershaw is never coming back. Cerys is a good first choice but mix tapes are not especially popular. As an introduction, Diawara and especially Sissoko are "class acts" and current. And it is good to see that there will be a good number of classic tracks from many artists. But what I feel we struggle with in 2018 unlike two years ago is having exciting new current names to explore. The fault for this is across the media. Not just Radio 3. Only this can recapture vibrancy.

[french frank]

I am not quite sure what this means.

It means, exactly , that R3 management volunteered the fact that their audience research indicated that Wo3 left a little to be desired (which corresponded with my own understanding, having made some pre-meeting enquiries). Hence, presumably, its 'relaunch' as World Planet.

I prefer live radio.

I'm not sure how often Wo3 was a live transmission (11pm-1am?), but in BBC terms 'live music' means that they specially recorded a live performance, as distinct from broadcasting commercial CDs, and they will continue to do so. Unless there is some festival with late night performances, I doubt many broadcasts will be live.

[Lat-Literal]

It means, exactly , that R3 management volunteered the fact that their audience research indicated that Wo3 left a little to be desired (which corresponded with my own understanding, having made some pre-meeting enquiries). Hence, presumably, its 'relaunch' as World Planet.



I'm not sure how often Wo3 was a live transmission (11pm-1am?), but in BBC terms 'live music' means that they specially recorded a live performance, as distinct from broadcasting commercial CDs, and they will continue to do so. Unless there is some festival with late night performances, I doubt many broadcasts will be live.

Thank you.

That would be Globaltruth then.

I hope that the festival - Womad - continues to be broadcast.

I have an odd thing about presenters being at a microphone when I listen. It conveys to me that I am connecting with the real world not so far from that beyond the window whereas if they are recording a programme earlier in the week they are somehow outside space and time. In many ways, I prefer the latter concept. It is an antidote to modern disappointments.

On the other hand, I am always wanting to feel reassured that there is something of the actual here and now that is in sync or at least partially in sync with my outlook. Alas, most of it isn't. None of this applies to drama or recordings of concerts. It is about how people and by consequence culture are in the moment with the moment representing 2018 and not 1970.

[doversoul1]

New series for late on Sundays: a 6-part History of Polyphony by Peter Phillips, and others

When, and where for that matter, is this starting?

[DracoM]

Good question............!!