'Scores' v 'Music'

[french frank]

It's been suggested to me that the number of comments about scores, rather than music, have become numerous enough to warrant a separate board: so Talking About Music could have sub-forums 'Music' and 'Scores' if people felt this would be useful? Any thoughts?

[Pulcinella]

Sorry if I've been partly responsible, especially hijacking the thread when perhaps a PM would have been more appropriate.
But this might originate from suffy telling us what he's listening to and following his scores, encouraging me to do the same.

On balance, a thread where we could discuss editions and that sort of thing might be useful, I feel.

[ferneyhoughgeliebte]

On balance, a thread where we could discuss editions and that sort of thing might be useful, I feel.

I agree - but with the caveat that such a discrete Thread might encourage some of me ... err, read "us" ... to wane lyrical with tales of the joys of Exam Boards' requiring different editions of set texts with less editorial restraint than I ... THEY've shown on the other Thread(s).

Just sayin' - so's you're aware, y'know

[ferneyhoughgeliebte]

Incidentally, might the Thread title here be more felicitously renamed "Scores" v "Listening" (or "Listening" and/or Reading")? The myth that the Music is in conflict with the Score is not one we wish to promote, is it?

[Pulcinella]

Incidentally, might the Thread title here be more felicitously renamed "Scores" v "Listening" (or "Listening" and/or Reading")? The myth that the Music is in conflict with the Score is not one we wish to promote, is it?

Or a broader 'Printed music scores and (performing) editions'? Not necessarily just for listening with but perhaps (e.g., the Goldbergs) for playing from or (e.g., Bruckner symphonies) for performing?

[ferneyhoughgeliebte]

Or a broader 'Printed music scores and (performing) editions'? Not necessarily just for listening with but perhaps (e.g., the Goldbergs) for playing from or (e.g., Bruckner symphonies) for performing?

[french frank]

I'll try and pick up these various points. Proms 2016 has now been archived which creates a slot on the homepage without making the list of forums impossibly long.

[MrGongGong]

Listening scores ?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=71hNl_skTZQ

[doversoul1]

From the point of view of someone who does / can not read scores, a forum about scores will be a place of little immediate interest but when a thread about scores comes up amongst other topics in Talking About Music, it can invite me to look in. I often find the discussion interesting if only to learn what can be discussed. Still, I won't oppose a new forum if the members who like to talk about the subject prefer a separate forum.

[Pulcinella]

Incidentally, might the Thread title here be more felicitously renamed "Scores" v "Listening" (or "Listening" and/or Reading")? The myth that the Music is in conflict with the Score is not one we wish to promote, is it?

Sorry if this is hijacking again, but it might be one of the reasons that a new thread was suggested: you mentioned that the Craft recording of Stravinsky's The Flood was indeed in conflict with the score you were following, so not always a myth!

And shall we promise to be discreet on the new discrete thread if we get it?

[french frank]

A bit of housekeeping on Classical Forum: Phase 1 (if I'm allowed to )

Slight change in the order of the boards based partly on no. of posts, partly no. of threads, partly FoR3 perception of overall importance to Radio 3, partly whim

Talking about Music will be top and … um … playlist programmes handily at the bottom (of the Classical Forum category - so just down one step and Hear & Now up a step). The Early Music Show main title Early Music, with description, and now specifying both TEMS and EML (just as a homepage signpost, not separated).

Then a look at CD Exchange/Reference Library (not much used - they could be sticky threads instead?)

Then there are a few things for a possible Phase 2 - where the new forum goes, the Listening Service.

[Dave2002]

Listening scores ?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=71hNl_skTZQ

So you can hear the music in your head with the sound turned down by looking at the "score", can you? Huh!

I quite like some of this, bits remind me of the Clangers.

[BBMmk2]

I'd be quite happy to have a thread discussing various editions of scores. I think this would appeal to the more trained musicians on this forum perhaps?

[ferneyhoughgeliebte]

Listening scores ?

Well - it does with me!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=71hNl_skTZQ

Ahhh - Paul Griffith's A Concise History of Modern Music; Thames & Hudson, c.1980!

[MrGongGong]

So you can hear the music in your head with the sound turned down by looking at the "score", can you? Huh!

I quite like some of this, bits remind me of the Clangers.

It's a listening score
It's not a set of instructions for actions
But made to assist with the listening process and to deepen understanding

There are lots of these things in the world

http://www.electrocd.com/en/select/partition/?id=8044

Made with Eanalysis (http://logiciels.pierrecouprie.fr)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-GMedIlNmmw

and there's more

http://www.musicainformatica.org/resources/the-acousmographe-for-a-graphical-representation-of-music.php