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  • french frank
    Administrator/Moderator
    • Feb 2007
    • 30451

    #76
    Originally posted by Richard Barrett View Post
    This and the "natural home" comment seem incoherent and meaningless to me.
    The only 'connection' seems to be that Radio 3 is where their music is likely to be broadcast - and if it isn't on Radio 3 it won't be broadcast anywhere else in the UK. I queried the Higgins comment because it seems to me that not all 'classical' (I know!) composers are otherwise immersed in 'core classical' music, poetry, drama, general arts debate. And why should they be? That said, many presumably are though possibly fewer than 50 years ago?

    And that said, how typical would this be now? (Have I shown it before? - it seems relevant):


    It isn't given us to know those rare moments when people are wide open and the lightest touch can wither or heal. A moment too late and we can never reach them any more in this world.

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    • Cockney Sparrow
      Full Member
      • Jan 2014
      • 2290

      #77
      Davey was interviewed in R4 "Today" this morning (post 07:30, probably post 08:30). A piece about the Third Prog anniversary. They set up the "moved into Classic FM territory" slant which he parried - including that they are playing longer pieces in the morning schedules. They didn't set up the lazy "criticism from entrenched listeners stuck in the 1950's" gambit.

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      • french frank
        Administrator/Moderator
        • Feb 2007
        • 30451

        #78
        Originally posted by Cockney Sparrow View Post
        They didn't set up the lazy "criticism from entrenched listeners stuck in the 1950's" gambit.
        You mean they didn't suggest it? I don't think AD would fall for that one publicly (whatever his private opinion might be - but I don't think he would agree with it anyway): he is after all recreating/celebrating various items from 1946 in the current 'season'.

        I didn't hear much from BBC people during RW's day that didn't pour scorn on the old Third Programme and argue that 'things are much better now' (meaning then, under RW). I have a feeling that both the back-room people who suggested that have now left R3.
        It isn't given us to know those rare moments when people are wide open and the lightest touch can wither or heal. A moment too late and we can never reach them any more in this world.

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        • Cockney Sparrow
          Full Member
          • Jan 2014
          • 2290

          #79
          Originally posted by french frank View Post
          You mean they didn't suggest it?
          Yes - they did not suggest that. In brief, the content was -reminiscent clips of Third/R3 programme presenters/sig. "tunes" followed by:

          Dividends of peace- culture to those who did not have it before. Multiple facets of R3 - mix speech/drama and music - BBC Trust re-affirmed "distinctive" - not just because of Classic FM criticism - Live concerts lunchtime and evening - increasing length of time music takes, freedom to create and challenging material.

          At 02:51:37 here:
          News and current affairs, including Sports Desk, Weather and Thought for the Day.

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          • french frank
            Administrator/Moderator
            • Feb 2007
            • 30451

            #80
            Originally posted by Cockney Sparrow View Post
            Thank you - yes, an entire 4 minutes devoted to 70 years of broadcasting

            The opening sound montage was good, though: humour, jazz, classical … Interesting that AD mentioned the Trust's last review (which - discreetly - insisted that Radio 3 should be "distinctive") as giving him the "green light" to forge ahead with change. Without needing to labour the point that change was needed … Work In Progress.
            It isn't given us to know those rare moments when people are wide open and the lightest touch can wither or heal. A moment too late and we can never reach them any more in this world.

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            • ahinton
              Full Member
              • Nov 2010
              • 16123

              #81
              Originally posted by french frank View Post
              And that said, how typical would this be now? (Have I shown it before? - it seems relevant):
              And how much of a Freudian typo might "obivious" have been?...

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              • vinteuil
                Full Member
                • Nov 2010
                • 12932

                #82
                Originally posted by ahinton View Post
                And how much of a Freudian typo might "obivious" have been?...
                None at all.

                Next....

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                • Richard Barrett
                  Guest
                  • Jan 2016
                  • 6259

                  #83
                  Originally posted by french frank View Post
                  that said, how typical would this be now?
                  I think it would be typical of my generation, some of whom amazingly are still alive now. For someone born after 1975, say, a lot less so. (And this applies to the library bit too.) Of course people no longer need radio for this purpose as they might have done in the past, so one might ask how could radio continue to function in that way. The answer I think is firstly for programming to reflect and express the choices of (a sufficiently large number of) informed and enthusiastic individuals, and secondly for R3 to again be active in actually recording things for broadcast - it's one thing to hear a new work in a Youtube video captured at the back of the hall by amateur equipment, quite another to hear a well-produced studio (or for that matter live) recording of it from Maida Vale. This is what many of the continental stations do, it can't be impossible.

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                  • ahinton
                    Full Member
                    • Nov 2010
                    • 16123

                    #84
                    Originally posted by vinteuil View Post
                    None at all.

                    Next....
                    No "next" but can you be sure of that?

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