Ominous interview with Sam Jackson

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  • Serial_Apologist
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    • Dec 2010
    • 37812

    #46
    Originally posted by Ein Heldenleben View Post

    To which I always feel like asking “Yes .but was he any good at it?”
    He half-made Starmer is the cheeky answer, so I leave it up to you!

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    • Barbirollians
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      • Nov 2010
      • 11751

      #47
      Can we cut the politics from this thread ?

      More worryingly, where will it stop classical music confined to 50% of Proms ? The Last Night with a first half of pop music ?

      There has also been deliberate puff re some Proms e.g the Wilson slick night and very little promotion of others such as the BBCNOW/Bancroft fascinating historically and musically Schoenberg/Zemlinsky Prom .

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      • Ein Heldenleben
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        • Apr 2014
        • 6925

        #48
        Originally posted by Barbirollians View Post
        Can we cut the politics from this thread ?

        More worryingly, where will it stop classical music confined to 50% of Proms ? The Last Night with a first half of pop music ?

        There has also been deliberate puff re some Proms e.g the Wilson slick night and very little promotion of others such as the BBCNOW/Bancroft fascinating historically and musically Schoenberg/Zemlinsky Prom .
        Interestingly I watched the Sinfonia Of London concert last night and again thought it somewhat disappointing. Billy the Kid was so bland and colourless .

        At one point Georgia Mann referred to the “hype “ around the orchestra perhaos unaware that the phrase has the association of “unwarranted overestimation “ about it. How very true.

        Why did JW signal to the strings with that vibrato movement on his cuff before the Barber? If if was to encourage finger waggling it certainly succeeded as the vibrato at the climax was almost nausea inducing.

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        • Ex Listener
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          • Sep 2024
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          #49
          Originally posted by Philidor View Post
          He wants more and more non-classical music at the Proms, probably to make it more “relevant” and to justify his hire to clueless BBC bosses. How sad.
          We have approximately 800 years of music from all over the world that falls in to the broadest definition of “classical” music. The BBC should play its part in nurturing this priceless heritage rather than watering it down.
          Last edited by Ex Listener; 16-09-24, 19:50.

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          • Serial_Apologist
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            • Dec 2010
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            #50
            Originally posted by Ex Listener View Post
            We have approximately 800 years of music from all over the world that falls in to the broadest definition of “classical” music. The BBC should play its part in this nurturing this priceless heritage rather than watering it down.


            Welcome to the Forum, Ex Listener.

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            • Ein Heldenleben
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              • Apr 2014
              • 6925

              #51
              Originally posted by Ex Listener View Post
              We have approximately 800 years of music from all over the world that falls in to the broadest definition of “classical” music. The BBC should play its part in this nurturing this priceless heritage rather than watering it down.
              Welcome .
              You are in the right place
              You are absolutely right .

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              • oddoneout
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                • Nov 2015
                • 9268

                #52
                Originally posted by Ex Listener View Post
                We have approximately 800 years of music from all over the world that falls in to the broadest definition of “classical” music. The BBC should play its part in this nurturing this priceless heritage rather than watering it down.
                Welcome Ex Listener. This is my permanent grumble, especially after the EBU Christmas broadcast, which always highlights the narrow offering we get.

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                • Retune
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                  • Feb 2022
                  • 328

                  #53
                  Can't accept Drum & Bass, we need Josquin I'm afraid.

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                  • pastoralguy
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                    • Nov 2010
                    • 7799

                    #54
                    Originally posted by Ex Listener View Post
                    We have approximately 800 years of music from all over the world that falls in to the broadest definition of “classical” music. The BBC should play its part in nurturing this priceless heritage rather than watering it down.
                    Welcome!

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                    • eighthobstruction
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                      • Nov 2010
                      • 6447

                      #55
                      ....welcome.... to our stultification....
                      bong ching

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                      • ucanseetheend
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                        • Dec 2010
                        • 298

                        #56
                        The BBC hype the Proms.more than ever but it can NEVER be called the 'greatest classical music festival ' again . Actually by Jackson's own admittance it is something he can't deny .
                        "Perfection is not attainable,but if we chase perfection we can catch excellence"

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                        • Suffolkcoastal
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                          • Nov 2010
                          • 3292

                          #57
                          I'm expecting the word 'classical' to be dropped for next year.

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                          • LMcD
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                            • Sep 2017
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                            #58
                            Originally posted by Suffolkcoastal View Post
                            I'm expecting the word 'classical' to be dropped for next year.
                            They'll probably be promoted - remorselessly- as 'The World's Greatest BBC Proms'

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                            • oddoneout
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                              • Nov 2015
                              • 9268

                              #59
                              Originally posted by Suffolkcoastal View Post
                              I'm expecting the word 'classical' to be dropped for next year.
                              Becoming the "greatest music festival" would at least be more accurate (sort of) given the current direction of travel, if one takes "greatest" to simply be the number of music(non specific) events to be put on over an extended period?

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                              • Serial_Apologist
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                                • Dec 2010
                                • 37812

                                #60
                                Originally posted by LMcD View Post

                                They'll probably be promoted - remorselessly- as 'The World's Greatest BBC Proms'
                                That would be tautologically tantamount to declaring, "The greatest BBC in the world - there is no other"!

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