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  • Pulcinella
    Host
    • Feb 2014
    • 10949

    Colours are the least of my problems!
    Not that I want to (yet), but I can't see how on earth you'd start a new thread.

    I continue to hate the way threads 'disappear' from What's New once you've looked at them, and even trying to find them again is by no means straightforward, despite clicking on what seems to be the topic in another view.
    Last edited by Pulcinella; 23-07-23, 05:18. Reason: Lower case at start of new line (still default in the box, it appears) changed to capital.

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    • Hitch
      Hitch commented
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      Agreed. I would prefer threads to remain visible and bolded/unbolded depending on whether they've been read.
  • french frank
    Administrator/Moderator
    • Feb 2007
    • 30300

    Originally posted by Dave2002 View Post
    Is there any way that a user can gain more control over the colours in this site?
    Not really. There are various completely different styles like the dark blue default of vBulletin, but I've turned that off (I think).

    Originally posted by Dave2002 View Post
    I am gradually getting used to the whiteness of it all, but I can barely remember what the previous site looked like - maybe someone still has a screen shot. Didn't it actually have alternating red and white sections?
    Yes, the current style was a Work in Progress. There are about 300 different variables, many - can you believe? - called something different from on the old forum. When I have time I might go back and see if I can identify which ones should be changed to get that effect.

    It isn't given us to know those rare moments when people are wide open and the lightest touch can wither or heal. A moment too late and we can never reach them any more in this world.

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    • french frank
      Administrator/Moderator
      • Feb 2007
      • 30300

      Originally posted by Pulcinella View Post
      Colours are the least of my problems!
      Not that I want to (yet), but I can't see how on earth you'd start a new thread.
      I have to morph into TestAccount (Full Member) to check on that. I may be gone some time …

      Originally posted by Pulcinella View Post
      i continue to hate the way threads 'disappear' from What's New once you've looked at them, and even trying to find them again is by no means straightforward, despite clicking on what seems to be the topic in another view.
      I cannot understand how vB5 can have been around for so long (we didn't upgrade until forced to), with obviously many users querying the absence of the old What's New? list view and nothing has been done. The developers didn't seem to understand the issue. As far as I can see there is no such view now, but I'm working on the quickest way to get to the thread one has just replied to. I may be gone some time …
      It isn't given us to know those rare moments when people are wide open and the lightest touch can wither or heal. A moment too late and we can never reach them any more in this world.

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      • TestAccount
        Full Member
        • Jul 2023
        • 2

        Originally posted by Pulcinella View Post
        I can't see how on earth you'd start a new thread.
        TestAccount reports: You start on the homepage (Forums). Where you see e.g. Talking About Music, that is a Category (now called a Channel), so you can't add a thread to that. Click on it and you get the various topics like Composer of the Week. If that's where you want to post a new thread, click on that and you should see the pale blue button New Topic at the top.

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        • TestAccount
          Full Member
          • Jul 2023
          • 2

          Originally posted by Pulcinella View Post
          i continue to hate the way threads 'disappear' from What's New once you've looked at them
          The closest to a workaround I've found is to go to the homepage Forums. On the right under Last Post you have the nearest thing to What's New? (old style). The drawback is that the new replies don't appear in time order, but in the fixed order of the forum layout. So my recent post on this board - Announcements - happened to be at the top, and it was also the most recent, but that was a coincidence. smittims' recent post on the Eternal Breakfast thread was way down under the Playlist Programmes. Nevertheless, that's what I see as a Full Member rather than an Administrator.

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          • Pulcinella
            Host
            • Feb 2014
            • 10949

            Originally posted by TestAccount View Post

            TestAccount reports: You start on the homepage (Forums). Where you see e.g. Talking About Music, that is a Category (now called a Channel), so you can't add a thread to that. Click on it and you get the various topics like Composer of the Week. If that's where you want to post a new thread, click on that and you should see the pale blue button New Topic at the top.
            Thanks!
            Found it.

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            • Serial_Apologist
              Full Member
              • Dec 2010
              • 37689

              Originally posted by gurnemanz View Post

              Control +mousewheel does it

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              • Andrew Slater
                Full Member
                • Mar 2007
                • 1793

                Originally posted by kernelbogey View Post
                Andrew - Is there any option to inrease the font size? I find it rather small - smaller than in Vbulletin, I think - but haven't found an option to change it.
                I'm a bit late to this, but you could try clicking on your name at the top, then select My Profile>Customize My Style>content>header>font size;text>font size. (It works for admins; not sure whether it will work for non-admins. It's a bit difficult for me to try as I'm on a mobile at the moment.)

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                • Nick Armstrong
                  Host
                  • Nov 2010
                  • 26536

                  Originally posted by Pulcinella View Post
                  Colours are the least of my problems!
                  Not that I want to (yet), but I can't see how on earth you'd start a new thread.

                  i continue to hate the way threads 'disappear' from What's New once you've looked at them, and even trying to find them again is by no means straightforward, despite clicking on what seems to be the topic in another view.
                  "...the isle is full of noises,
                  Sounds and sweet airs, that give delight and hurt not.
                  Sometimes a thousand twangling instruments
                  Will hum about mine ears, and sometime voices..."

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                  • Andrew Slater
                    Full Member
                    • Mar 2007
                    • 1793

                    Originally posted by french frank View Post

                    I think Andrew will be able to sort this. I've been looking over at the vB forum and there are many posters who seem to want to get back to the good old list of all the latest posts on the various topics. What's New? is apparently Which Topics are New not Which Posts are New. I think it needs either new code or something else beyond my pay grade. I succeeded in getting a This Page Does Not Exist message but didn't think people would find that an improvement
                    I'm a bit behind what's been happening here, but I think if you use advanced search with yesterday and today as the search limits and topics as the final criterion you get something more like the old What's New. I even get to see my own posts this way. It's a bit of a faff filling in all the fields every time, but it does seem to achieve the desired result. Apologies if I've missed any steps / parameters out but I can't cross-refer on this phone.

                    Just found another essential parameter: instead of relevance select last update. Can't get rid of the smilie in the wrong place. >>>.
                    Last edited by Andrew Slater; 22-07-23, 22:04. Reason: To add other essential parameter.

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                    • Dave2002
                      Full Member
                      • Dec 2010
                      • 18021

                      In post 108 Pulcinella makes a comment. The little arrow to link to the original post doesn't seem to do anything. Doesn't obviously go to the original posting. However I notice that the original is post 105, which is still within the scope of this particular web page so maybe it doesn't do anything if the original post is on the same web page. This isn't particularly helpful though.

                      From recent posts it does seem that this site is still running on vBulletin - will someone please confirm. It looks also as though some versions of vBulletin may have been skipped.
                      I can't answer Pulcinella's comment about posts being hidden or removed from New posts once they have been read, but I can confirm that I've seen that before on another site which seems to use the same underlying software package. I agree it's a nuisance - but maybe a "feature" of some versions of vBulletin.

                      I think you'll find that this site - https://theartofsound.net/forum/ - uses similar underlying software - though not everyone wants to visit that site, as sometimes there are reports about software threats. Up to now I haven't "enjoyed" the colour scheme on that site as much as on the [old] For3 site, but now in comparison the yellow seems much more subdued and less "in your face".

                      The Art of Sound Forum linked site from the previous paragraph has the same [or very similar] behaviour regarding visited "new" posts.

                      I can live with the "new" colour" scheme here - even if I think I preferred the old one.

                      If there's a way to shrink away, or trim, the wasted vertical space, that might still be helpful. Partly it's due to the control "buttons" for editing etc. taking up space on a line below each post - see to the bottom right under this one. Plus I think there's a line of white space under the last line of each post - before the frame marker line. ... and now I'm looking more carefully, it looks as though that "button" line is also enclosed within an outer frame, and also has a line of white space under it.

                      It now seems to me that some of the vertical spacing "issues" are due to the way frames include other frames. So the member identity frame - currently in a grey colour - to the left of this text frame is always going to take up vertical space, and if the text frame to the right doesn't have much text, then the vertical drop will be a minimum set by the depth of the grey frame.
                      Last edited by Dave2002; 23-07-23, 03:13.

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                      • oddoneout
                        oddoneout commented
                        Editing a comment
                        Partly it's due to the control "buttons" for editing etc. taking up space on a line below each post

                        Those buttons appeared under the text on the old forum so I can live with that use of space - at least it's useful. Your single line post does demonstrate the unnecessary use of space issue very well though.
                        I would have liked to put in quote marks but it only seems to want to put those in the general reply box at the bottom of the page.
                    • Dave2002
                      Full Member
                      • Dec 2010
                      • 18021

                      Just testing my asssertion about vertical frames from post 116 - without quoting - to keep the text short. Looks like a bull's eye!

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                      • Pulcinella
                        Host
                        • Feb 2014
                        • 10949

                        In Dave's post timed at 04:03, mention is made of Post numbers.
                        I had to switch from Latest Activity to Posts to see any numbers, and when I did the order was reversed again (starting at number 1).
                        Do I have to change another setting to display latest first in that view too?
                        Or can post numbers be made to appear elsewhere?

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                        • oddoneout
                          Full Member
                          • Nov 2015
                          • 9204

                          Couldn't edit* my "comment" post to clarify which was Dave's(aka Guest for some reason) text and which was mine, so I think I'll stick with the "quote" option for replies.

                          * the box with my post was obscured by the "reason for edit" box

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                          • Pulcinella
                            Host
                            • Feb 2014
                            • 10949

                            Another anomaly just spotted.
                            I tried to use the B button to 'embolden' part of a quote and nothing happened, so I had to resort to the good old square brackets typed in manually.

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