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  • french frank
    Administrator/Moderator
    • Feb 2007
    • 30253

    That damn' Eye

    Private Eye strikes again



    It isn't given us to know those rare moments when people are wide open and the lightest touch can wither or heal. A moment too late and we can never reach them any more in this world.
  • MrGongGong
    Full Member
    • Nov 2010
    • 18357

    #2
    It's the "serious listening audience" again
    Are they like the "serious fraud office" ?
    What about the "frivolous listening audience"?

    hooray for distinctiveness

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    • french frank
      Administrator/Moderator
      • Feb 2007
      • 30253

      #3
      Originally posted by MrGongGong View Post
      It's the "serious listening audience" again
      Are they like the "serious fraud office" ?
      What about the "frivolous listening audience"?
      If you examine the 'supporting evidence' gathered by the Trust you will find one bit says:

      'Casual' listeners listen to Radio 3 to relax and unwind. Their engagement with the station is primarily as background noise, and their listening habits are fairly erratic. This is linked to the fact that they don’t always feel engaged by the content'.

      Sorry, from that description, these are not serious listeners. Are they?
      It isn't given us to know those rare moments when people are wide open and the lightest touch can wither or heal. A moment too late and we can never reach them any more in this world.

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      • MrGongGong
        Full Member
        • Nov 2010
        • 18357

        #4
        Originally posted by french frank View Post

        'Casual' listeners listen to Radio 3 to relax and unwind. Their engagement with the station is primarily as background noise, and their listening habits are fairly erratic. This is linked to the fact that they don’t always feel engaged by the content'.
        This is why we need more of this (IMV)



        That'll teach em to (ab)use music for "relaxation"

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        • teamsaint
          Full Member
          • Nov 2010
          • 25195

          #5
          (French ) Frankie says " Relax ?"
          I will not be pushed, filed, stamped, indexed, briefed, debriefed or numbered. My life is my own.

          I am not a number, I am a free man.

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          • MrGongGong
            Full Member
            • Nov 2010
            • 18357

            #6
            Originally posted by teamsaint View Post
            (French ) Frankie says " Relax ?"

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            • french frank
              Administrator/Moderator
              • Feb 2007
              • 30253

              #7
              Originally posted by MrGongGong View Post
              Must be a different Frankie.



              Had to look up the reference
              It isn't given us to know those rare moments when people are wide open and the lightest touch can wither or heal. A moment too late and we can never reach them any more in this world.

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              • pastoralguy
                Full Member
                • Nov 2010
                • 7739

                #8
                How about a John Cage weekend or a Bartok 'immersion' week.

                That'll scare the buggers off...

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                • MrGongGong
                  Full Member
                  • Nov 2010
                  • 18357

                  #9
                  Originally posted by french frank View Post

                  Had to look up the reference
                  That's because you only listen to "serious" music

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                  • french frank
                    Administrator/Moderator
                    • Feb 2007
                    • 30253

                    #10
                    Originally posted by MrGongGong View Post
                    That's because you only listen to "serious" music
                    Gongers, you do have a bee in your bonnet, don't you, about anyone talking about 'listening seriously' or 'listening to serious music' as if you're determined to read something into it that you can object to ... Frankie Says Relax
                    It isn't given us to know those rare moments when people are wide open and the lightest touch can wither or heal. A moment too late and we can never reach them any more in this world.

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                    • MrGongGong
                      Full Member
                      • Nov 2010
                      • 18357

                      #11
                      Originally posted by french frank View Post
                      Gongers, you do have a bee in your bonnet, don't you, about anyone talking about 'listening seriously' or 'listening to serious music' as if you're determined to read something into it that you can object to ... Frankie Says Relax
                      I do
                      mainly because i've encountered it many times as a justification for thinking that some music is superior to others
                      YES, it can be a 'serious' activity (I'm writing an orchestral piece at the moment which i'm spending many hours on) BUT using the phrase "serious music" strikes me as lazy and (often) ignorant of the way in which other musics are created and performed...... rant over, back to the score

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                      • french frank
                        Administrator/Moderator
                        • Feb 2007
                        • 30253

                        #12
                        Originally posted by MrGongGong View Post
                        I do
                        mainly because i've encountered it many times as a justification for thinking that some music is superior to others
                        That's what I meant: you don't have to take issue with everyone (in this case Lunchtime O'Boulez) for mentioning the 'serious listening audience'. I'd take that to mean people who don't want the tweets, txts, phone-ins (now gone!), quizzes, repeated trails &c - in fact anything that interrupts their serious listening

                        Though even if some people do think 'classical music', or jazz, or rock, is superior to other sorts, they are entitled to hold that opinion. It's not something you can disprove - only disgree with.
                        It isn't given us to know those rare moments when people are wide open and the lightest touch can wither or heal. A moment too late and we can never reach them any more in this world.

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                        • muzzer
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                          • Nov 2013
                          • 1190

                          #13
                          Originally posted by french frank View Post
                          That's what I meant: you don't have to take issue with everyone (in this case Lunchtime O'Boulez) for mentioning the 'serious listening audience'. I'd take that to mean people who don't want the tweets, txts, phone-ins (now gone!), quizzes, repeated trails &c - in fact anything that interrupts their serious listening

                          Though even if some people do think 'classical music', or jazz, or rock, is superior to other sorts, they are entitled to hold that opinion. It's not something you can disprove - only disgree with.
                          Have the phone-ins now gone? Time to crack open the Easter eggs early if so.....

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                          • Anastasius
                            Full Member
                            • Mar 2015
                            • 1842

                            #14
                            Originally posted by MrGongGong View Post
                            This is why we need more of this (IMV)



                            That'll teach em to (ab)use music for "relaxation"
                            I think there must be something wrong with the bit-rate, it sounds so bad. Ah...I see the date it was posted!! Very good.
                            Fewer Smart things. More smart people.

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                            • Old Grumpy
                              Full Member
                              • Jan 2011
                              • 3600

                              #15
                              Originally posted by muzzer View Post
                              Have the phone-ins now gone? Time to crack open the Easter eggs early if so.....

                              Certainly less than before, if my Breakfast listening experience is representative. Possibly gone into hibernation - ready to appear at the hint of the last frost

                              OG

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