The Culture Minister speaks ...

[teamsaint]

I'll probably be flayed alive but bring it on... I'd side with EV on the late evening offering. Fortunately my hours tend to coincide with TTN, but on occasion when preparing for nocturnal oblivion a little earlier, I find little to enjoy on R3, to my taste at any rate.

E.g. this evening: "Hear the Malawian gourd kazoo in tonight’s #LateJunction"

Indeed, last night too, I enjoyed getting to know Stenhammar's First Piano Concerto thanks to Classic FM in preference to the R3 offering...
M

Pity they didnt trail the gourd Kazoo piece, a bit better.....

Anyhow, there is youtube.

Do you know this, Cals?

Right up your street , I should have thought.

Vladigerov PC no 3.

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=BP-UpwLANhE

[french frank]

I'll probably be flayed alive but bring it on... I'd side with EV on the late evening offering.

My final sentence was pointing out that whatever was "BOMBASTIC, SYMBOLS CRASHING, MARCH US OF TO WAR SORT OF ASSAULT UPON THE EARS" it wasn't the classical music. It's one of the drawbacks of stripped programming. It's done so that people can easily find the programmes they like ("My programme's on at 10.30pm every night"), with a schedule that's 'easily navigable'. Not so good for those who don't like the programme: it's total lock-out.

And if you take something like jazz: it's only on on Saturday afternoons and Monday evenings, yet some listeners will say there's far too much of it and swear that every time they switch on it's jazz ...

[aka Calum Da Jazbo]

some listeners will say there's far too much of it and swear that every time they switch on it's jazz ...

nah it ain't, take it from me it ain't so!

down with schedules!

now radio as the sound of surprise now that would be something eh?

[french frank]

nah it ain't, take it from me it ain't so!

'Tis if you insist on switching on at 5pm on a Saturday. Nothing but jazz most weeks . My instinct is to have a range of programmes which are integrated rather than separated into individual niche audiences. But I suspect most listeners prefer to know that, for example, they get jazz every Saturday between 4pm and 6pm. But would prefer to have it every afternoon, not just Saturdays.

For Radio 3, the 'not classical music' is separated out and given the late night slots, which I suppose could suit someone with the jazz/world/LJ mixed genre taste. Then speech will be in the 9.30-11ish band. Free Thinking/The Essay/The Verb even Do3. In which case the disgruntled audience will be the classical people who have nothing in the later part of the evening, a quid pro quo for having the lion's share of everything else. So I don't know how you sort that one out.

[Bryn]

We are in the 21st Century now. Schedules, schmedules, it's all available via the iPlayer for up to 28 days now. I very rarely listen to Radio 3 in real time these days, other than in the car, and even then I'm just as likely to listen to something captured from the iPlayer and temporarily residing on a USB stick.

[french frank]

We are in the 21st Century now. Schedules, schmedules, it's all available via the iPlayer for up to 28 days now. I very rarely listen to Radio 3 in real time these days, other than in the car, and even then I'm just as likely to listen to something captured from the iPlayer and temporarily residing on a USB stick.

The downside being that it's more difficult to make the serendipitous discovery other than within the programme you've already decided you want to hear.

[Flosshilde]

We are in the 21st Century now. Schedules, schmedules, it's all available via the iPlayer for up to 28 days now.

When video recorders became common it used to be the joke that rather than 'not watching' a programme when it was broadcast, you could now 'not watch' it at a time of your choice; I think that it's rather the same with iPlayer.

If you literally don't have a schedule then presumably you just put all your programmes on the internet & don't broadcast anything. The concept of a 'radio station' would disappear. If you mean that you don't have regular time slots for different programmes, you either have to scan the schedules (can't get away from them) every day or week to find out when, for example, jazz is going to be on, & then organise your time to fit, or play lucky dip & hope thet you find something you're interested in (which is what I tend to do anyway).

I think that a lot of this discussion tends towards the view that one should have what one wants when one wants it - preferaby NOW - which to me is rather spoilt-childish.

[Honoured Guest]

I much prefer listening to music on live radio to listening via i-player, mainly because of tinny laptop sound but also because of the extra strain of scheduling personal timetables from the i-player library.

In Tune (weekdays 4.30 to 6.30pm) features live guests and music from the whole range of Radio 3 (classical, world, roots, jazz, new), so it's already doing what French Frank wants.

The drawback for listeners is that they have to wade through hours of music they aren't interested in, in order to catch what they prefer. The programme suits drivers and anyone leaving the radio on while they do another activity, but it's useless for anyone who might be interested to hear a particular guest or music.

Late Junction and World on 3 are annoying for the same reason, if you listen live. Only Jazz on 3 provides coherent, long-form programming.

And, when I was working, Jazz on 3 was on too late for me to hear regularly.

[french frank]

In Tune (weekdays 4.30 to 6.30pm) features live guests and music from the whole range of Radio 3 (classical, world, roots, jazz, new), so it's already doing what French Frank wants.

It's not quite what I was saying (nor either what I want or don't want): I was thinking of the content (e.g. jazz) being in a single programme, but that you wouldn't have a block of jazz programmes at the same time, or a block of speech programmes taking the same slot every day. It's only theoretical - I was saying that might very well be what listeners wanted - the block of jazz, the stripped speech programmes &c.

[aka Calum Da Jazbo]

ff the same is true of opry - when it is on it is on for bleedin' hours 'n hours

the iPlayer is the place for blocks

the original Third Programme did not have too much of a schedule and that frightened the suits@AUNT then and ever after

rainbow hours, music across the spectrum might be nice [kiddies radio eh]

can we trust them not to be numbskullies? or gushers? not at all sure about that ... these are the suits@AUNT who brought you spouting gushers of personal pronouns and chat 'n that eh ... the wells of me my 'n I 'n adjectival unspecified referencing