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  • Barbirollians
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    • Nov 2010
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    Olympics or Proms ?

    I am miles behind in catching up with the Proms as the Olympics have led me to be glued to BBC1 and 2 every evening - anyone else ?
  • Petrushka
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    • Nov 2010
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    #2
    An easy one for me as my loathing of all sport (except horse racing) is legendary and has been there since schooldays. Mind, the Proms aren't exactly much of a draw either right now, the odd one or two apart, so evenings are usually spent catching up with unplayed CDs.
    "The sound is the handwriting of the conductor" - Bernard Haitink

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    • vinteuil
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      • Nov 2010
      • 12860

      #3
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      ... for me - neither. Fortunately I am currently somewhere with no radio or telly

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      • LMcD
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        • Sep 2017
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        #4
        Originally posted by Petrushka View Post
        An easy one for me as my loathing of all sport (except horse racing) is legendary and has been there since schooldays. Mind, the Proms aren't exactly much of a draw either right now, the odd one or two apart, so evenings are usually spent catching up with unplayed CDs.
        A welcome opportunity to revisit my Blomstedt/San Francisco Nielsen symphonies.

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        • smittims
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          • Aug 2022
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          #5
          I haven't watched the Olympics since 1972 (Munich). I disapprove of all the nationalistic flag waving waste of money . If the Olympic games were conducted in a spirit of friendly international competition where the athletes took part as individual human beings, not 'representing their country', , with not silly 'opening ceremony', etc. i.e. just the events and no chit chat, then I might show an interest. Luckily this year's Proms (at any rate those with classical music ) are turning out to be rewarding to hear, so I'm content with Radio 3.

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          • LMcD
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            • Sep 2017
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            #6
            Originally posted by smittims View Post
            I haven't watched the Olympics since 1972 (Munich). I disapprove of all the nationalistic flag waving waste of money . If the Olympic games were conducted in a spirit of friendly international competition where the athletes took part as individual human beings, not 'representing their country', , with not silly 'opening ceremony', etc. i.e. just the events and no chit chat, then I might show an interest. Luckily this year's Proms (at any rate those with classical music ) are turning out to be rewarding to hear, so I'm content with Radio 3.
            One consequence of the BBC's deal with Warner Brothers is less genuine live coverage of some events, which may account for gaps in coverage that have to be filled with the chit chat to which you refer.

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            • oddoneout
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              • Nov 2015
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              #7
              Originally posted by LMcD View Post

              One consequence of the BBC's deal with Warner Brothers is
              less genuine live coverage of some events
              , which may account for gaps in coverage that have to be filled with the chit chat to which you refer.
              Sounds like R3...

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              • Ein Heldenleben
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                • Apr 2014
                • 6819

                #8
                Originally posted by Barbirollians View Post
                I am miles behind in catching up with the Proms as the Olympics have led me to be glued to BBC1 and 2 every evening - anyone else ?
                No not behind as I watch the Olympics between 1930 and 2130 with the sound turned down. It is on all day at times on both the BBC and Discovery + simultaneously . I haven’t missed many Proms - heard many of them twice.

                Not so far a vintage Proms season though at least 5 standout concerts. The only thing that’s got in the way was having to view rushes last week.

                Nor a vintage Olympics - it has been marked though out by some of the most bizarre incidents in Olympic history - crashes , dodgy results , upsets and to cap it all a world class sprinter winning a bronze with Covid . Respect.

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                • LMcD
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                  • Sep 2017
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                  #9
                  Originally posted by Ein Heldenleben View Post

                  No not behind as I watch the Olympics between 1930 and 2130 with the sound turned down. It is on all day at times on both the BBC and Discovery + simultaneously . I haven’t missed many Proms - heard many of them twice.

                  Not so far a vintage Proms season though at least 5 standout concerts. The only thing that’s got in the way was having to view rushes last week.

                  Nor a vintage Olympics - it has been marked though out by some of the most bizarre incidents in Olympic history - crashes , dodgy results , upsets and to cap it all a world class sprinter winning a bronze with Covid . Respect.
                  As I understand it, Warner Brothers/Discovery Channel acquired the broadcasting rights subject to a (limited) free-to-air to element, which is what the BBC is showing.

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                  • Ein Heldenleben
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                    • Apr 2014
                    • 6819

                    #10
                    Originally posted by LMcD View Post

                    As I understand it, Warner Brothers/Discovery Channel acquired the broadcasting rights subject to a (limited) free-to-air to element, which is what the BBC is showing.
                    Discovery have total streaming rights. There don’t appear to be any restrictions on what they can stream and that includes rewind and highlights packages.It’s a hugely impressive technical operation.Much better than NOW TV sport which one suspects is kept deliberately encourage Sky Sports take up.
                    The BBC have the rights to broadcast on one terrestrial channel and one digital stream simultaneously . That’s effectively less than the pre internet days when the Olympics were live on both BBC One and Two . That’s because it’s a slightly cumbersome process turning round between digital streams .

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                    • Maclintick
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                      • Jan 2012
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                      #11
                      Originally posted by Barbirollians View Post
                      I am miles behind in catching up with the Proms as the Olympics have led me to be glued to BBC1 and 2 every evening - anyone else ?
                      Same here. Yesterday evening I attempted to be really clever ( often a doomed aspiration, I'm afraid ) and stream R3 live at 320 kbps through the big system, while watching the athletics on TV with subtitles supplying the live commentary -- or annoying chit-chat, if you prefer --from Gabby & guests, only to find that subtitles weren't available. How poor is that, & how frustrating for hearing-impaired viewers ?
                      As with other R3 programmes, BAL included, I'll attempt to catch up with Proms I've missed when time allows...
                      Last edited by Maclintick; 09-08-24, 09:38.

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                      • Old Grumpy
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                        • Jan 2011
                        • 3623

                        #12
                        Originally posted by Ein Heldenleben View Post


                        The BBC have the rights to broadcast on one terrestrial channel and one digital stream simultaneously . That’s effectively less than the pre internet days when the Olympics were live on both BBC One and BBC Two.
                        Some of us think that's a good thing. Saturation sport on both BBC channels was ridiculous.

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                        • Retune
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                          • Feb 2022
                          • 320

                          #13
                          Originally posted by Ein Heldenleben View Post
                          Discovery have total streaming rights. There don’t appear to be any restrictions on what they can stream and that includes rewind and highlights packages.It’s a hugely impressive technical operation.
                          The BBC were excellent on iPlayer back when they had full rights, the high point of their Olympic coverage. 9Now in Australia (accessible via a VPN) have apparently complete free live coverage, though they don't have full replays of everything (naturally enough, they seem to concentrate on events where Australia is prominent, though they do have some highlights of other things). A lot of Brits doing commentary, too.

                          For me, the Proms are mostly an opportunity to go to some excellent concerts, and I don't keep up with the radio/Sounds broadcasts unless it's something of particular interest I wasn't able to attend live. That's probably why I'm less bothered than some about the increasing proportion of non-classical concerts - even in the current diluted programme there are more than enough to pick and choose from than I can get to in practice.

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                          • LHC
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                            • Jan 2011
                            • 1560

                            #14
                            Originally posted by Retune View Post
                            The BBC were excellent on iPlayer back when they had full rights, the high point of their Olympic coverage. 9Now in Australia (accessible via a VPN) have apparently complete free live coverage, though they don't have full replays of everything (naturally enough, they seem to concentrate on events where Australia is prominent, though they do have some highlights of other things). A lot of Brits doing commentary, too.

                            For me, the Proms are mostly an opportunity to go to some excellent concerts, and I don't keep up with the radio/Sounds broadcasts unless it's something of particular interest I wasn't able to attend live. That's probably why I'm less bothered than some about the increasing proportion of non-classical concerts - even in the current diluted programme there are more than enough to pick and choose from than I can get to in practice.
                            Ironically, I suspect it was the success of the BBC streaming multiple events live on the Red Button and on IPlayer in 2012 that led to interest from companies such as Discovery doing the same with the Olympics in the years since, and it is this which has effectively priced the BBC out of the market.

                            It's only because the Olympics are amongst the protected sporting events that cannot only be streamed on pay channels that the BBC is still able to show some of it, even if their access is restricted.
                            "I do not approve of anything that tampers with natural ignorance. Ignorance is like a delicate exotic fruit; touch it and the bloom is gone. The whole theory of modern education is radically unsound. Fortunately in England, at any rate, education produces no effect whatsoever. If it did, it would prove a serious danger to the upper classes, and probably lead to acts of violence in Grosvenor Square."
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                            • french frank
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                              • Feb 2007
                              • 30344

                              #15
                              Originally posted by Old Grumpy View Post

                              Some of us think that's a good thing. Saturation sport on both BBC channels was ridiculous.
                              I didn't know about that. So much of life goes on without me
                              It isn't given us to know those rare moments when people are wide open and the lightest touch can wither or heal. A moment too late and we can never reach them any more in this world.

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