Televised Proms

[french frank]

They've even managed to misspell Henry Mancini in the list.

I'll add a [sic] to Msg 1. Does that mean someone pronounces it wrongly too?

[Serial_Apologist]

I'll add a [sic] to Msg 1. Does that mean someone pronounces it wrongly too?

Manky would be so much more easy to pronounce...

[MickyD]

I'll add a [sic] to Msg 1. Does that mean someone pronounces it wrongly too?

I would guess so - Mancini is pronounced Mancheenee. I can't believe that such a big name of 20th century film and musical scores could be treated so. Or perhaps I can, bearing in mind all that we see these days.

[Serial_Apologist]

I would guess so - Mancini is pronounced Mancheenee. I can't believe that such a big name of 20th century film and musical scores could be treated so. Or perhaps I can, bearing in mind all that we see these days.

Well have to say thank you, Micky: I - a jazz buff no less - have always pronounced the c as an s, probably like most British folk.

[MickyD]

I've just checked and I'm in the wrong, it is pronounced with an S, my apologies ! (But they still spelt it wrongly with an extra 'h'!)

[Serial_Apologist]

I've just checked and I'm in the wrong, it is pronounced with an S, my apologies ! (But they still spelt it wrongly with an extra 'h'!)

Well in non-Americanised Italian a ch before an i would usually be the correct pronunciation, if I'm not mistaken. Perhaps someone more learned on the forum would like to step in? - I've never had formal lessons in Italian!

[cria]

Ciao - Arrivaderci - Mancini & so on (not s)

[Ein Heldenleben]

I would guess so - Mancini is pronounced Mancheenee. I can't believe that such a big name of 20th century film and musical scores could be treated so. Or perhaps I can, bearing in mind all that we see these days.

Well I knew a Mancini in New York and he pronounced it Man See Knee. He was incidentally one of the most prodigiously intelligent people I’ve ever met.
Ah I’ve seen you’ve corrected your original post .
I won’t cancel mine as it will hopefully act as a corrective to all those gangster movies! What a contribution Italian Americans have made to American culture .

[MickyD]

Well in non-Americanised Italian a ch before an i would usually be the correct pronunciation, if I'm not mistaken. Perhaps someone more learned on the forum would like to step in? - I've never had formal lessons in Italian!

Yes, that's what I believed, too. The composer Veracini (Veracheenee) being an example.

I feel lucky to have seen Mancini live at an LWT outside broadcast when I was working for the company.

[smittims]

I was surprised to hear 'the Cenci' (as in Shelley's drama and Brian's opera) pronounced 'chenchee' were I'd always said 'sensi'. 'Shenshi' may be more correct, but it still sound awkward to me.

[french frank]

I was surprised to hear 'the Cenci' (as in Shelley's drama and Brian's opera) pronounced 'chenchee' were I'd always said 'sensi'. 'Shenshi' may be more correct, but it still sound awkward to me.

I don't think many people would understand who the Cenci were, but even fewer would understand if they were called the Sensi.

[Ein Heldenleben]

I was surprised to hear 'the Cenci' (as in Shelley's drama and Brian's opera) pronounced 'chenchee' were I'd always said 'sensi'. 'Shenshi' may be more correct, but it still sound awkward to me.

I have never spoken the word Cenci nor heard it spoken but for some reason when reading it I always mentally hear Chen see . Possibly because of Ceneretola being pronounced Chen not Sen

[Pulcinella]

Wiki says CHEN-chee:

The Cenci. A Tragedy, in Five Acts (1820) is a verse drama in five acts by Percy Bysshe Shelley written in the summer of 1819, and inspired by a real Roman family, the House of Cenci (in particular, Beatrice Cenci, pronounced CHEN-chee).

Also, it's apparently the Tuscan word for rags, and in that context would also be CHEN-chee:

https://www.insidetherustickitchen.com/cenci/

I didn't know that's what they're called (well, it's one of the possibilities), but they're delicious!

[LMcD]

The 2016 BBC Proms Verdi Requiem, with the Orchestra of the Age of Enlightenment and BBC Proms Youth Choir under Marin Alsop, is on BBC4 at 10.20 p.m. tomorrow, preceded by the Summer Night Concert from Vienna at 8.00 p.m. with Andris Nelsons on the podium (and a profile of Karl Jenkins at 9.20 p.m.).

[french frank]

Wiki says CHEN-chee:

Of course it does! It's the name of a well-known Italian family. How else would they pronounce it (R3 excluded)?