Prom 44: Lili Boulanger / Debussy / Prokofiev / Ravel, Rotterdam PO, Shani

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  • richardfinegold
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    • Sep 2012
    • 7735

    #16
    I’ve heard Shani conduct 2 programs here in Chicago and both were excellent concerts

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    • edashtav
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      • Jul 2012
      • 3671

      #17
      Originally posted by Nick Armstrong View Post

      Absolutely

      I can’t resist a shout-out for the trombone section (not least the third trombone! ) - what a team, ideal precision and richness, and instruments tilted high for a couple of their most sonorous contributions!
      Well, Nick, you make it found like buggins' turn and perhaps it is: we must have heard at least 76 fine trombones in this season of reliable orchestral performances and there's been scarcely a mention of the trombones least of all bass buggin#3 at the base of the pyramid. I suppose trombones get fewer solos than trumpets and horns but they have hearts of gold and are not renowned for their split notes- a inevitable issue for the horn choir. Trombones have, I fear, an ability individually and corporately to dominate all of their colleagues by making a big noise. I know I castigate them from time to time for balance issues, especially when they tilt their instruments on high.

      However, I agree with you: the Rotterdam trombone section was peerless last night & beyond criticism! The trombones and the centrally placed double bases were foundation stones that supported the excellence of the whole Rotterdam band.

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      • Nick Armstrong
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        • Nov 2010
        • 26570

        #18
        https://www.theguardian.com/music/article/2024/aug/25/prom-44-rotterdam-philharmonic-lahav-shani-review-royal-albert-hall-london

        "...the isle is full of noises,
        Sounds and sweet airs, that give delight and hurt not.
        Sometimes a thousand twangling instruments
        Will hum about mine ears, and sometime voices..."

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        • Ein Heldenleben
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          • Apr 2014
          • 6930

          #19
          Deserves the five stars for the concerto alone which in my view was one of the most remarkable musico-pianistic feats I have ever witnessed,

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          • Nick Armstrong
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            • Nov 2010
            • 26570

            #20
            NB: rebroadcast of this wonderful concert shortly, scheduled for 14:30

            [Naturally, it started early… highlighting the bungling futility of afternoon scheduling on R3 these days…]

            Poised to record!

            (Having listened a couple of times on the iPad, the antics of the silver-haired clown in the row behind us whose phone went off in the lovely quiet conclusion to the Boulanger and who proceeded to drop it twice in his fumbling attempts to turn it off were all too audible on the broadcast He didn’t half get some glares, including from various desks in the second violins who were just in front of us… )
            Last edited by Nick Armstrong; 27-08-24, 13:25. Reason: Update
            "...the isle is full of noises,
            Sounds and sweet airs, that give delight and hurt not.
            Sometimes a thousand twangling instruments
            Will hum about mine ears, and sometime voices..."

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            • Ein Heldenleben
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              • Apr 2014
              • 6930

              #21
              Originally posted by Nick Armstrong View Post
              NB: rebroadcast of this wonderful concert shortly, scheduled for 14:30

              Poised to record!

              (Having listened a couple of times on the iPad, the antics of the silver-haired clown in the row behind us whose phone went off in the lovely quiet conclusion to the Boulanger and who proceeded to drop it twice in his fumbling attempts to turn it off were all too audible on the broadcast He didn’t half get some glares, including from various desks in the second violins who were just in front of us… )
              You’ve got me listening out for it now !

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              • Nick Armstrong
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                • Nov 2010
                • 26570

                #22
                Originally posted by Ein Heldenleben View Post

                You’ve got me listening out for it now !


                It’s a chime. For the uninitiated it might sound like offstage glockenspiel… )
                "...the isle is full of noises,
                Sounds and sweet airs, that give delight and hurt not.
                Sometimes a thousand twangling instruments
                Will hum about mine ears, and sometime voices..."

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                • Serial_Apologist
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                  • Dec 2010
                  • 37812

                  #23
                  Originally posted by Ein Heldenleben View Post

                  You’ve got me listening out for it now !
                  Is Nick's disgust audible?

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                  • Ein Heldenleben
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                    • Apr 2014
                    • 6930

                    #24
                    Originally posted by Nick Armstrong View Post



                    It’s a chime. For the uninitiated it might sound like offstage glockenspiel… )
                    I didn’t hear it and weirdly I’m strangely disappointed…

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                    • Nick Armstrong
                      Host
                      • Nov 2010
                      • 26570

                      #25
                      Originally posted by Serial_Apologist View Post

                      Is Nick's disgust audible?


                      No - definitely the silent treatment
                      "...the isle is full of noises,
                      Sounds and sweet airs, that give delight and hurt not.
                      Sometimes a thousand twangling instruments
                      Will hum about mine ears, and sometime voices..."

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                      • Nick Armstrong
                        Host
                        • Nov 2010
                        • 26570

                        #26
                        Originally posted by Ein Heldenleben View Post

                        I didn’t hear it and weirdly I’m strangely disappointed…
                        Guess ‘you had to be there’

                        "...the isle is full of noises,
                        Sounds and sweet airs, that give delight and hurt not.
                        Sometimes a thousand twangling instruments
                        Will hum about mine ears, and sometime voices..."

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                        • Nick Armstrong
                          Host
                          • Nov 2010
                          • 26570

                          #27
                          Originally posted by Nick Armstrong View Post
                          NB: rebroadcast of this wonderful concert shortly, scheduled for 14:30

                          [Naturally, it started early… highlighting the bungling futility of afternoon scheduling on R3 these days…]

                          WHY can’t they just broadcast the concert … but no, there has to be interruption by cheeky chappie whoever he is; a trailer; some unconnected music by Suk…

                          What’s wrong with these people?
                          "...the isle is full of noises,
                          Sounds and sweet airs, that give delight and hurt not.
                          Sometimes a thousand twangling instruments
                          Will hum about mine ears, and sometime voices..."

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                          • Pulcinella
                            Host
                            • Feb 2014
                            • 11062

                            #28
                            Originally posted by Nick Armstrong View Post

                            WHY can’t they just broadcast the concert … but no, there has to be interruption by cheeky chappie whoever he is; a trailer; some unconnected music by Suk…

                            What’s wrong with these people?
                            Presumably because Suk features tonight?

                            But I agree: infuriating and unnecessary.

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                            • Nick Armstrong
                              Host
                              • Nov 2010
                              • 26570

                              #29
                              Originally posted by Pulcinella View Post
                              But I agree: infuriating and unnecessary.
                              Especially as it left them without any time to play the terrific encore (which was included in the live broadcast)



                              Still, great to hear the main pieces on proper equipment.

                              I suppose it was a small mercy not to have the movements of the Prokofiev spread across three afternoons, of which the present régime would be perfectly capable…
                              "...the isle is full of noises,
                              Sounds and sweet airs, that give delight and hurt not.
                              Sometimes a thousand twangling instruments
                              Will hum about mine ears, and sometime voices..."

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                              • Serial_Apologist
                                Full Member
                                • Dec 2010
                                • 37812

                                #30
                                Suk and ye shall not find.

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