Prom 17: Ives/Ravel/Debussy/Tchaikovsky, RPO/Philharmonia Ch., Kozhukhin/V. Petrenko

[Nick Armstrong]

Quite the opposite reaction here: its filigree nature was completely missing (imho).

Listened again this afternoon (the concert repeat started at 2pm as per Radio Times) - my positive impression was reinforced… I loved the songlike feel with a triple time swing in the slow movement.

Seems I prefer more pace than lace in this work

[Pulcinella]

Listened again this afternoon (the concert repeat started at 2pm as per Radio Times) - my positive impression was reinforced…

Seems I prefer more pace than lace in this work

That's of course allowed.


I remember being amazed when I first saw a score of how the second movement was notated.
Yes it's in 3, but (to take just the first six notes) we are in 3/4, they are quavers, and are written in pairs.
Three duplets per bar, not two triplets.
And so it continues, with the melody in long notes over the top.
I'm not sure I've heard anyone play it quite like that.

(Maybe I need to find a YouTube with score video to show what I mean.)

Here's one (but was it really recorded in Ohio?).

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nSLgsg6NJKM

The blurb says:
- Composer: Joseph-Maurice Ravel (7 March 1875 -- 28 December 1937) - Orchestra: London Symphony Orchestra - Conductor: Pierre Boulez - Soloist: Krystian Zimermani - Year of recording: 1994- 4 - Recording Venue: Masonic Auditorium, Cleveland, Ohio

[HighlandDougie]

Here's one (but was it really recorded in Ohio?).

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nSLgsg6NJKM

The blurb says:
- Composer: Joseph-Maurice Ravel (7 March 1875 -- 28 December 1937) - Orchestra: London Symphony Orchestra - Conductor: Pierre Boulez - Soloist: Krystian Zimermani - Year of recording: 1994- 4 - Recording Venue: Masonic Auditorium, Cleveland, Ohio

Well, as the performance is with the Cleveland Orchestra, yes, most definitely recorded in Ohio. The L/H concerto has the LSO.

[Pulcinella]

Well, as the performance is with the Cleveland Orchestra, yes, most definitely recorded in Ohio. The L/H concerto has the LSO.

I was too lazy to check!
So it's the LSO attribution that's wrong, then.

[Nick Armstrong]

That's of course allowed.


I remember being amazed when I first saw a score of how the second movement was notated.
Yes it's in 3, but (to take just the first six notes) we are in 3/4, they are quavers, and are written in pairs.
Three duplets per bar, not two triplets.
And so it continues, with the melody in long notes over the top.
I'm not sure I've heard anyone play it quite like that.

Yes… I still have the blue-covered manuscript booklet from school music lessons in which I copied out in my teenage hand (from a score borrowed from the public library) the initial solo piano section from the second movement so that I could play it myself. I remember being puzzled/confused that it didn’t seem to correspond with how I’d heard and fallen in love with the piece…