Prom 4: MacMillan/Mahler, Hallé/Hallé Choir & Youth Choir & Children’s Choir, Elder

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  • bluestateprommer
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    • Nov 2010
    • 3007

    Prom 4: MacMillan/Mahler, Hallé/Hallé Choir & Youth Choir & Children’s Choir, Elder

    Sunday 21 July 2024
    19:30
    Royal Albert Hall

    Sir James MacMillan: Timotheus, Bacchus and Cecilia (London premiere)

    Interval

    Mahler: Symphony No. 5 in C-sharp minor

    Hallé Children’s Choir
    Hallé Youth Choir
    Hallé Choir
    Hallé
    Sir Mark Elder, conductor

    The entire Hallé family visits from Manchester to celebrate Sir Mark Elder’s last season as Music Director after 25 years in the role. Together they present Sir James MacMillan’s Timotheus, Bacchus and Cecilia and Mahler’s life-affirming Symphony No. 5.




    Starts
    21-07-24 19:30
    Ends
    21-07-24 21:45
  • Barbirollians
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    • Nov 2010
    • 11667

    #2
    This is the same programme as in Manchester on 31st May. It was an outstanding concert especially the performance of the Macmillan and I would recommend this Prom highly.

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    • LMcD
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      • Sep 2017
      • 8399

      #3
      Originally posted by Barbirollians View Post
      This is the same programme as in Manchester on 31st May. It was an outstanding concert especially the performance of the Macmillan and I would recommend this Prom highly.
      A welcome chance to hear THAT Adagietto 'in context'.

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      • bluestateprommer
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        • Nov 2010
        • 3007

        #4
        Found the text for the James MacMillan work, from the Cincinnati May Festival's site here:

        Timotheus, Bacchus and Cecilia
        Text excerpted from Alexander’s Feast; or the Power of Music by John Dryden (1631-1700):

        "Timotheus placed on high
        Amid the tuneful quire
        With flying fingers touch’d the lyre:
        The trembling notes ascend the sky
        And heavenly joys inspire.
        The song began from Jove
        Who left his blissful seats above
        Such is the power of mighty love!
        A dragon’s fiery form belied the god;
        Sublime on radiant spires he rode
        When he to fair Olympia prest,
        And while he sought her snowy breast,
        Then round her slender waist he curl’d,
        And stamp’d an image of himself, a sovereign of the world.
        The listening crowd admire the lofty sound;
        A present deity! they shout around:
        A present deity! the vaulted roofs rebound:
        With ravish’d ears
        The monarch hears,
        Assumes the god;
        Affects to nod,
        And seems to shake the spheres.

        The praise of Bacchus then the sweet musician sung,
        Of Bacchus ever fair and ever young:
        The jolly god in triumph comes;
        Sound the trumpets, beat the drums!
        Flush’d with a purple grace
        He shows his honest face:
        Now give the hautboys breath; he comes, he comes!
        Bacchus, ever fair and young,
        Drinking joys did first ordain;
        Bacchus’ blessings are a treasure,
        Drinking is the soldier’s pleasure:
        Rich the treasure,
        Sweet the pleasure,
        Sweet is pleasure after pain.

        (Sancta Cecilia, ora pro nobis.) (Saint Cecilia, pray for us.)

        Thus, long ago,
        Ere heaving bellows learn’d to blow,
        While organs yet were mute,
        Timotheus, to his breathing flute
        And sounding lyre,
        Could swell the soul to rage, or kindle soft desire.
        At last divine Cecilia came.
        Inventress of the vocal frame;
        The sweet enthusiast from her sacred store
        Enlarged the former narrow bounds,
        And added length to solemn sounds,
        With Nature’s mother-wit, and arts unknown before.
        Let old Timotheus yield the prize,
        Or both divide the crown;
        He raised a mortal to the skies,
        She drew an angel down!"
        PS: Non-sequitur addition, namely the BBC FOUR link (I couldn't add it to the initial Calendar entry).

        Last edited by bluestateprommer; 21-07-24, 17:38. Reason: added BBC FOUR link

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        • Pulcinella
          Host
          • Feb 2014
          • 10877

          #5
          Absolutely execrable TV presentation!
          No explanation of the MacMillan work; no text as subtitles!
          Sadly, all par for the course.

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          • edashtav
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            • Jul 2012
            • 3667

            #6
            MacMillan's Trypticon is a generous tour de force which showcases the massed forces of the Hallé's choirs, orchestra and its ever youthful chief conductor, Sir Mark Elder, invidually and corporately to great and , eventually, joyous effect. Three in one, each component examines one character: Timotheus, Bacchus and Cecilia. 4:2:4 syllables and their music seems to derive from the verbal rhythms of their names with three moods: bright, dark and desolate, and finally a paean of praise that Purcell could not excel in his 1692 Cantata 'Hail, Bright Cecilia'.

            This was probably its third performance by today's forces as the demand for tickets at the premiere was such that the Orchestra's management wisely chose to schedule a repeat concert. The Proms performance was superb: confident, wonderfully characterised and quite overwhelming in its impact.

            What a way to celebrate the 25 year reign of Sir Mark Elder. AVE ATQUE VALE.

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            • Ein Heldenleben
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              • Apr 2014
              • 6736

              #7
              Originally posted by edashtav View Post
              MacMillan's Trypticon is a generous tour de force which showcases the massed forces of the Hallé's choirs, orchestra and its ever youthful chief conductor, Sir Mark Elder, invidually and corporately to great and , eventually, joyous effect. Three in one, each component examines one character: Timotheus, Bacchus and Cecilia. 4:2:4 syllables and their music seems to derive from the verbal rhythms of their names with three moods: bright, dark and desolate, and finally a paean of praise that Purcell could not excel in his 1692 Cantata 'Hail, Bright Cecilia'.

              This was probably its third performance by today's forces as the demand for tickets at the premiere was such that the Orchestra's management wisely chose to schedule a repeat concert. The Proms performance was superb: confident, wonderfully characterised and quite overwhelming in its impact.

              What a way to celebrate the 25 year reign of Sir Mark Elder. AVE ATQUE VALE.
              Indeed one minute into Mahler 5 and the prep that’s gone into this is evident ( a lifetime’s)

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              • Petrushka
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                • Nov 2010
                • 12232

                #8
                Originally posted by Pulcinella View Post
                Absolutely execrable TV presentation!
                No explanation of the MacMillan work; no text as subtitles!
                Sadly, all par for the course.
                Agreed. I discovered the text appended by BSP in #4 much too late. Just because it's sung in English it appears subtitles aren't necessary when experience says otherwise.
                "The sound is the handwriting of the conductor" - Bernard Haitink

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                • edashtav
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                  • Jul 2012
                  • 3667

                  #9
                  I was delighted to read bsp's transcription of the text just before the Prom commenced. It made a terrific difference to my enjoyment and understanding of the new work. BBC please note.

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                  • Ein Heldenleben
                    Full Member
                    • Apr 2014
                    • 6736

                    #10
                    The string playing of the Hallé in that performance was out of this world. The attack , the shading , the phrasing - what a wonderful performance. No hint of flagging in the finale - the concentration of the musicians is extraordinary. Sir Mark how can you even think of retirement ? You have set the Proms alight.

                    That final rallentando at the end - oh my word overwhelming.

                    Words are superfluous but , as always . I’d love to hear what others think .
                    Listened on R3 tonight - Iplayer now - back to the finale

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                    • eighthobstruction
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                      • Nov 2010
                      • 6428

                      #11
                      Originally posted by Ein Heldenleben View Post
                      The string playing of the Hallé in that performance was out of this world. The attack , the shading , the phrasing - what a wonderful performance. No hint of flagging in the finale - the concentration of the musicians is extraordinary. Sir Mark how can you even think of retirement ? You have set the Proms alight.

                      That final rallentando at the end - oh my word overwhelming.

                      Words are superfluous but , as always . I’d love to hear what others think .
                      Listened on R3 tonight - Iplayer now - back to the finale
                      ....Who do you think you are Katie Derham....
                      bong ching

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                      • Ein Heldenleben
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                        • Apr 2014
                        • 6736

                        #12
                        Originally posted by eighthobstruction View Post

                        ....Who do you think you are Katie Derham....
                        No I’m doing it for free !

                        Not only that I’ve just heard the finale again on BBC Four where I can say the sound is distinctly inferior to R3 FM.

                        He’s right about the fountain…

                        and the importance of Classical Music.

                        This piece of Elgar as an encore that according to Sir Mark “ we all know “ …I don’t know it !

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                        • eighthobstruction
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                          • Nov 2010
                          • 6428

                          #13
                          Originally posted by Ein Heldenleben View Post

                          No I’m doing it for free !

                          Not only that I’ve just heard the finale again on BBC Four where I can say the sound is distinctly inferior to R3 FM.

                          He’s right about the fountain…

                          and the importance of Classical Music.
                          Yes, I heard it half radio, half TV (I wanted to see Mark Elder....) yes lousy sound....(woodwind esp)
                          bong ching

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                          • Ein Heldenleben
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                            • Apr 2014
                            • 6736

                            #14
                            Originally posted by eighthobstruction View Post

                            Yes, I heard it half radio, half TV (I wanted to see Mark Elder....) yes lousy sound....
                            What’s the Elgar encore 8th ?

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                            • eighthobstruction
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                              • Nov 2010
                              • 6428

                              #15
                              Originally posted by Ein Heldenleben View Post

                              What’s the Elgar encore 8th ?
                              Turned it off....didn't see end speech either (watched both -mute, really will go to all lengths pos' to avoid KD))....back on for Andrew Davis for sentimental fun/nostalgia...
                              bong ching

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