Trailers for Proms: not sure I can stand any more

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  • DracoM
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    • Mar 2007
    • 12979

    #31
    Yes, yes, oh YES!!!!

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    • oddoneout
      Full Member
      • Nov 2015
      • 9219

      #32
      Having never heard of Katya Adler I looked her up and came across this.
      The presenters will be bringing to TV audiences concerts which will include two of Beethoven’s most well-known symphonies.

      Not sure about the concept of Huw Edwards "hosting" Proms concerts...

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      • smittims
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        • Aug 2022
        • 4210

        #33
        Hmm. I see no evidence that either of them knows anything about classical music, but then there's less and less of that each year anyway...

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        • Ein Heldenleben
          Full Member
          • Apr 2014
          • 6801

          #34
          Originally posted by Nick Armstrong View Post
          They’ve gone mad this year

          … Next Friday’s programming on R3 is basically one long trailer from 6.30am to 6.59pm


          What’s wrong with trying something new - like series of lives from the Albert Hall ? Must be pretty repetitive producing your umpteenth cd compilation. And I speak as a certified OB -o-phobe …it’s all far too stressful.

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          • Nick Armstrong
            Host
            • Nov 2010
            • 26541

            #35
            No programme is currently safe from the egregious Service suddenly urging “It’s coming…” … yeah, it’s coming, the moment when my radio flies through the nearest window
            "...the isle is full of noises,
            Sounds and sweet airs, that give delight and hurt not.
            Sometimes a thousand twangling instruments
            Will hum about mine ears, and sometime voices..."

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            • oddoneout
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              • Nov 2015
              • 9219

              #36
              Originally posted by Ein Heldenleben View Post
              What’s wrong with trying something new - like series of lives from the Albert Hall ? Must be pretty repetitive producing your umpteenth cd compilation. And I speak as a certified OB -o-phobe …it’s all far too stressful.
              But isn't much/most of it going to be CD compilation, just in a different place and with the same theme running through the whole day, namely "upcoming Proms concerts"? There's a bit more variation in presenter than on normal weekday though, with an extra couple slotted in between 11am and 5pm.

              Unless of course it's all going to be very different from the schedule and there will be plenty of input from performers and pundits running their critical eyes and ears over the 2023 offering, providing insights and something of interest from their perspective. Either way unless there is more detail about what is being broadcast I won't bother - not least because much of this year's offering is of no great interest to me anyway so hours of music from those concert programmes isn't much of a draw.

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              • Ein Heldenleben
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                • Apr 2014
                • 6801

                #37
                Originally posted by oddoneout View Post
                But isn't much/most of it going to be CD compilation, just in a different place and with the same theme running through the whole day, namely "upcoming Proms concerts"? There's a bit more variation in presenter than on normal weekday though, with an extra couple slotted in between 11am and 5pm.

                Unless of course it's all going to be very different from the schedule and there will be plenty of input from performers and pundits running their critical eyes and ears over the 2023 offering, providing insights and something of interest from their perspective. Either way unless there is more detail about what is being broadcast I won't bother - not least because much of this year's offering is of no great interest to me anyway so hours of music from those concert programmes isn't much of a draw.
                The latter is what I would do but it needs more intensive ( and costly) production. I await with not particularly bated breath.

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                • LeWoiDeWeigate
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                  • Nov 2022
                  • 31

                  #38
                  Not just the trails for the Proms that attracts my Capra; I hate the trails for other BBC output such as the infernal football, tennis and television stuff none of which I have a jot of interest in. What I want in the space between my music is silence - time to digest, to breathe.

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                  • Pulcinella
                    Host
                    • Feb 2014
                    • 10977

                    #39
                    Originally posted by LeWoiDeWeigate View Post
                    Not just the trails for the Proms that attracts my Capra; I hate the trails for other BBC output such as the infernal football, tennis and television stuff none of which I have a jot of interest in. What I want in the space between my music is silence - time to digest, to breathe.
                    You don't even get a microsecond of silence in Mixtape: one snippet straight into the next. Drives me and my ears mad (well, madder than I usually am, that is).

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                    • DracoM
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                      • Mar 2007
                      • 12979

                      #40
                      Proms promos not just on R3 either - do they not know the golden rule that if you carpet bomb an audience, they come to reject the produce being posted - i.e achieves exactly opposite of the intended promo.
                      Blimey - grow up, BBC!!!

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                      • Serial_Apologist
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                        • Dec 2010
                        • 37715

                        #41
                        Originally posted by DracoM View Post
                        Proms promos not just on R3 either - do they not know the golden rule that if you carpet bomb an audience, they come to reject the produce being posted - i.e achieves exactly opposite of the intended promo.
                        Blimey - grow up, BBC!!!
                        That also goes for most TV adverts these days - viewers must surely get sick to death of how often and how for long they are foisted on us, let alone their mostly abysmal and infantile quality. In many cases the children depicted on some ads must be middle-aged by now! At some point the advertising industry as a whole has lost the plot completely and concentrated on recruiting people totally lacking in wit, artistry, or any sense of relevance to product. Whatever happened to the classy adverts of yesteryear - Black Magic and so on? Two things we were always taught were: 1) display the name of the product as frequently as often during the ad; and 2) Avoid at all costs anything which will provoke disgust in the viewer, ie by laying it on thick about unpleasant odours, toilets, carpet spillages etc. One would think these matters as being obvious. One could also say a thing or two about unsuitable musical choices. How some of these products ever get sold must surely only be down to prominent positioning on retail shelves, certainly not promotion.

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                        • EnemyoftheStoat
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                          • Nov 2010
                          • 1132

                          #42
                          Of course, having turned on the radio over breakfast and leaving it on to do an innocent ear listening of the Bruckner 8 scherzo then playing (the Ton in Tonhalle rhymes with bone, not Bonn, Andrew), the next thing I hear is a bloody Proms trailer. Radio off, and I'm now going to make some paint dry.

                          As for adverts on the telly, it's now all irrelevant rubbish for tin boxes with wheels on, perfume or gambling. Or washing products with the exhortation to "always keep away from children". I try, believe me, I try...
                          Last edited by EnemyoftheStoat; 26-08-23, 11:35.

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                          • LeWoiDeWeigate
                            Full Member
                            • Nov 2022
                            • 31

                            #43
                            Originally posted by Pulcinella View Post

                            You don't even get a microsecond of silence in Mixtape: one snippet straight into the next. Drives me and my ears mad (well, madder than I usually am, that is).
                            Don't get me started on 'Mixtape' - the last time I had made a 'mixtape' I drove a Mk1 Golf with a car radio from Comet, had just upgraded to Dolby C on my Sharp Cassette Deck and used to grab parts of the Top 40 from Radio 1 and Robbie Vincent on BBC Radio London. Kiss was still a pirate station in Saurf London and I had a Sinclar ZX80...

                            What irks me greatly is that as musicians we spend SO much time thinking not just about the impact of the sound and Radio 3 currently seems hell bent on filling every dark corner with glaring light or forgetting that the context of a symphony is immediately lost by only playing one movement from it...

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                            • Eine Alpensinfonie
                              Host
                              • Nov 2010
                              • 20570

                              #44
                              Radio 3 Proms promotions remind me of when my son worked in MacDonald’s when a student. The staff all had to regurgitate a well-wishing sentence at the end of a transaction. However well this mini-speech was delivered, the constant repetition became nauseating, as has every announcer/presenter cramming “BBC Radio 3, the home of the Proms” into every reference.

                              (I thought the RAH was the home of the Proms.)

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                              • LeWoiDeWeigate
                                Full Member
                                • Nov 2022
                                • 31

                                #45
                                Originally posted by Eine Alpensinfonie View Post
                                Radio 3 Proms promotions remind me of when my son worked in MacDonald’s when a student. The staff all had to regurgitate a well-wishing sentence at the end of a transaction. However well this mini-speech was delivered, the constant repetition became nauseating, as has every announcer/presenter cramming “BBC Radio 3, the home of the Proms” into every reference.

                                (I thought the RAH was the home of the Proms.)
                                I spent a few years living in the States where this kind of pointless platitude is de-rigueur and often confused with the need to actually do one's job to the best of one's abilities. I would much rather than someone told me to 'f right off' whilst actually achieving more than I ever expected than wish me a 'nice day' with the kind of Colgate-fuelled smile that wouldn't look out of place delivered by a Mormon door-knocker... Radio 3 and 4 really are the last bastions of Reithian culture of information, education and entertainment but they are struggling to maintain the first two in the pursuit of the mind-numbing latter.

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