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It isn't given us to know those rare moments when people are wide open and the lightest touch can wither or heal. A moment too late and we can never reach them any more in this world.
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The next step towards resolving the problems of the world and towards civilization will not be possible until all those evil imaginary figments "nations," "countries" and "borders" are abolished. Total chaos caused by over-population is coming quite soon now, and that will be the impetus. The chaos will be much much greater than the chaoses that followed the two great wars of the past century (which gently pushed humanity towards a "uniting of nations" - bad start to keep the name though what!), and so the impetus next time will be correspondingly much much stronger. A hundred years from now - i.e. within the life-time of many tiny tots of the present - it will have become a crime to utter the word "nation"! Get ready! Forget "Britain"!
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Originally posted by Sydney Grew View PostThe next step towards resolving the problems of the world and towards civilization will not be possible until all those evil imaginary figments "nations," "countries" and "borders" are abolished. Total chaos caused by over-population is coming quite soon now, and that will be the impetus. The chaos will be much much greater than the chaoses that followed the two great wars of the past century (which gently pushed humanity towards a "uniting of nations" - bad start to keep the name though what!), and so the impetus next time will be correspondingly much much stronger. A hundred years from now - i.e. within the life-time of many tiny tots of the present - it will have become a crime to utter the word "nation"! Get ready! Forget "Britain"!
I don't see how - or, for that matter, why - over-population would or even could in itself be expected to provide the impetus, directly or indirectly, for the abolition of nations or the severance of borders between them that you evidenlty advocate. Global over-population can only realistically be identified when there are too many people for the world's natural resources to support; this situation will vary in accordance with the success or otherwise of the implementation of certain scientific discoveries that might help to sustain larger population numbers but, in any case, large parts of the habitable world are not over-populated and look unlikely to become so in the foreseeable future.
That said, your final exhortation to "forget "Britain!"" could well have merit if indeed Scotland does become independent of it this coming September, for that will surely turn the gaze of England upon Wales and what it might feel encouraged to do in the wake of Scotland's successful secession; if Wales does eventually follow suit, there will be no "Britain" left (and it won't matter so much in that particular context what if anything might happen to Northern Ireland as it's not part of Britain anyway, only a member of the United Kingdom, so the only change will be that such membership will cease upon the dissolution of the United Kingdom). Once again, though, the ultimate result will be more countries, not less.
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Originally posted by Serial_Apologist View PostThink global, act local, used to be the Greens' worthwhile catchphrase.
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amateur51
Self-declared fan of Putin, old Bill Tong has been remarkable quiet of late - is he feeling a bit Tom and Mick?
Or is he spending his time railing at John Kerry, telling him not to interfere with the internal affairs of a sovereign state?
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Originally posted by mercia View Posthappy birthday Mr Putin
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-29513589
Black-belt Judoka, defender of nation states, democrat and redeemer of Crimea!
Raising a glass (Monkey Shoulder, not vodka!) on his happy day!
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Originally posted by Beef Oven! View PostIndeed. Happy birthday to the great man!
Black-belt Judoka, defender of nation states, democrat and redeemer of Crimea!
Raising a glass (Monkey Shoulder, not vodka!) on his happy day!
If we're going to celebrate a truly great Russian who was born on this day (though who is sadly no longer with us), then let it be Shura Cherkassky (who began life, however, in what is now the pre-EU member state known as Ukraine)...
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Originally posted by ahinton View PostI trust that yer 'avin' a larf 'ere.
If we're going to celebrate a truly great Russian who was born on this day (though who is sadly no longer with us), then let it be Shura Cherkassky (who began life, however, in what is now the pre-EU member state known as Ukraine)...
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Originally posted by Beef Oven! View PostI'm thinking of Russians, not Little Russians. ;-)
Putin is a Little Russian in some ways too, of course - not so much in physical stature but more in terms of the disproportionate amount of noise that he makes and attention that he seeks to draw to himself. The extent of danger associated with him is at least to some extent proportionate to the value of disposable cash available to him and his henchpersons and, these days, the economy of his country is looking increasingly parlous. Someone ought to turn his gas taps off; the sooner the better. Maybe his place could be taken by Mr Farage; at least the outcome of that would be interesting, if little else...
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