Is tripartisanship over the SNP's bid to retain the £ bullying?

[MrGongGong]

No? I don't believe so. :-)

But you have just reminded me: I meant to unearth James Hamilton Paterson's novel Gerontius. I remember enjoying it a lot. He tells me :whistle: it's to be reissued.

Let me know when it is
I can't wait ....... actually it looks quite interesting, unlike................!!

Looking on the (thematically linked) river folks
you can get it for 1p (+ P&P)

[Beef Oven!]

I've lost track as to how the discussion moved from the Scottish independence referendum to a European Political Union; though that is also being debated.

Then go back to Flossie and MrGG's earlier yin-yang, where Flossie was doing a Farage, and MrGG was having us believe that before the Euro, you couldn't put on gigs. I just added my tuppence worth at the end, so don't blame me.

[french frank]

I just added my tuppence worth at the end, so don't blame me.

I wasn't blaming anyone for anything. I was justifying my own pursuit of that particular side issue.

[Beef Oven!]

I wasn't blaming anyone for anything. I was justifying my own pursuit of that particular side issue.

Damn, I thought I had my persecution complex under control!

[Flosshilde]

I've lost track as to how the discussion moved from the Scottish independence referendum to a European Political Union; though that is also being debated.

Because the thread was/is about Scotland having a monetary (Sterling) union with the RUK, & the eurozone was being used as an example of how it would (or wouldn't) work.

[french frank]

Because the thread was/is about Scotland having a monetary (Sterling) union with the RUK, & the eurozone was being used as an example of how it would (or wouldn't) work.

Why are people making a 'thing' about this? I merely said that I had 'lost track' of how the one topic (Scottish referendum on independence, including the issues relevant to its relationship with the EU) came to what I read as the nature of the EU itself as a political union: and I pointed out that the matter was not a reality but merely a debating topic - for which I gave a link. The working (or otherwise) of the eurozone is not the same as European political union.

I was blaming no one, I was taking no stance on any particular matter: I was merely commenting as one who was too idle to trawl through the thread from the beginning.

Mea culpa, mea culpa, mea maxima culpa.

[Eine Alpensinfonie]

did I ever mention that piece by Elgar ?

You ought to set your mentioning of it to music, using Ravel's Bolero...

[Flosshilde]

Why are people making a 'thing' about this? I merely said that I had 'lost track' of how the one topic (Scottish referendum on independence, including the issues relevant to its relationship with the EU) came to what I read as the nature of the EU itself as a political union: and I pointed out that the matter was not a reality but merely a debating topic - for which I gave a link. The working (or otherwise) of the eurozone is not the same as European political union..

Well, perhaps people are making a 'thing' about it (not that I think they are, I was simply trying to answer your question) becuse your interpretation of what the thread was about isn't correct, & neither is your interpretation of the discussion about the EU.

[french frank]

Well, perhaps people are making a 'thing' about it (not that I think they are, I was simply trying to answer your question) becuse your interpretation of what the thread was about isn't correct, & neither is your interpretation of the discussion about the EU.

It's true that the thread started out as something quite different. So - we all seem to have lost track of that.

Perhaps we should get back to the OP? The UK parties united in saying they 'would not recommend' an independent Scotland being permitted to retain the GBP - was that 'bulleying'? Neither did I offer my interpretation about the original topic - merely how one topic (there have been several closely interrelated ones, including the referendum on independence, the retention of the pound, the reactions of Con, Lab and Lib Dems, the eurozone, the relative importance to Scotland of economic independence v. the control over a wider range of issues, European political union) had led to another.

If my interpretation of what the thread is about, or my interpretation of the discussion about the EU, are incorrect, I'd be pleased - as one who has confessed to having 'lost track' - to be set right.

Oh, and what question were you answering? I can't immediately see that I asked one, prior to your comment..

[Flosshilde]

Oh, and what question were you answering? I can't immediately see that I asked one, prior to your comment..

Originally Posted by french frank

I've lost track as to how the discussion moved from the Scottish independence referendum to a European Political Union; though that is also being debated.

Because the thread was/is about Scotland having a monetary (Sterling) union with the RUK, & the eurozone was being used as an example of how it would (or wouldn't) work.

Agreed it didn't actually have a question mark, but that doesn't mean it wasn't a question.


As I said, the original post was about a (possible) sterling currency union; the EU was mentioned because it has a currency union, which was given as an example of the desirability (or otherwise) of such a thing, & how it does (or doesn't) work without a political union. Simple, really.

I suppose you could say that the original post was about bullying, in which case you could introduce all sorts of thgings as examples of how bullies don't prosper. :erm:

It's true that the thread started out as something quite different. So - we all seem to have lost track of that.

I don't think so - the discussion has been quite consistently about currency unions, with only minor diversions. Fairly unusual for a thread hereabouts.

[french frank]

I don't think so - the discussion has been quite consistently about currency unions, with only minor diversions. Fairly unusual for a thread hereabouts.

No! My comment came as an intervention, specifically, into the 'minor diversion between Beefy and Gongers about (small) businesses - with special ref to Gongers' own affairs - and the need to 'manage overheads' for which 'European Political Union' was not needed. The ref in my Msg 100 was as to how managing overheads/running a business, bruv, and European Political Union (not the eurozone or economic/monetary union) had sprung from the the original topic. And I referred to my following the 'side-issue' (or in your words 'minor diversion') contained within #90-#99.

I did quote the actual remark on which I was commenting. Beefy seemed quite satisfied with the reply, albeit being somewhat disappointed at not being blamed for everything. You could interpret my initial remark as a rhetorical question, if you wish.

[Flosshilde]

Well, I could reply to that but I don't see the point. I think that when a thread moves to discussing itself, rather than the topic, everything's probably been said.

[MrGongGong]

No! My comment came as an intervention, specifically, into the 'minor diversion between Beefy and Gongers about (small) businesses - with special ref to Gongers' own affairs - and the need to 'manage overheads' for which 'European Political Union' was not needed. The ref in my Msg 100 was as to how managing overheads/running a business, bruv, and European Political Union (not the eurozone or economic/monetary union) had sprung from the the original topic. And I referred to my following the 'side-issue' (or in your words 'minor diversion') contained within #90-#99.

I did quote the actual remark on which I was commenting. Beefy seemed quite satisfied with the reply, albeit being somewhat disappointed at not being blamed for everything. You could interpret my initial remark as a rhetorical question, if you wish.

Ha ha

I'm not pleading a special case for my affairs by the way ;-)

Only trying to make the point that there are a vast number of businesses that are small outfits (which does include musicians) and no one seems to ever consider those people, it's all about huge concerns and "expansion" etc etc

On my 6am trek to a rehearsal in Norwich this morning I was listening to Farming Today on R4, interesting that there is more manufacturing in "rural" areas than cities, I wonder what the real demographics are of how people in the UK earn a living? I suspect there are far more self employed and small folks than one might imagine.

[Eine Alpensinfonie]

It's very interesting to follow the Debates at Holyrood on BBC Parliament. How much more civilised and respectful are MSPs than the rabble at Westminster. I'm not just referring Flashman's mob, but all political parties over many years.

[Flosshilde]

Partly to do with the shape of the chamber (Churchill famously vetoed a proposal for a horse-shoe shaped Commons when it was rebuilt after WWII, wanting to retain the 'adversarial' nature of debates) & because much of the discussion & debate over bills is done in the initial committee stage, the bill arriving in the chamber in its final form.