Is tripartisanship over the SNP's bid to retain the £ bullying?

[MrGongGong]

And is David Cameron or George Osborne?

NO obviously not
Not exactly a good argument though is it?

I hope that people have their bullshit detectors working

We know that they are ALL part of the same old nonsense in spite of what some might try to tell us.

[french frank]

Mr Salmond's response: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotlan...itics-26183687

[On the tangential EU issue, the response of British business: http://www.cbi.org.uk/media-centre/p...yougov-survey/ ]

[amateur51]

Perhaps the best option would be "independence-lite", greater control of tax and spend without full independence, but I'm not sure how exactly that might work.

I suspect that both Messrs Salmond and Cameron would agree with you. It is after all only a slightly beefed up version of what exists. But moving towards whatever it might be doesn't sound dramatic and bold enough for either of these posturers. They'd need Donald Dewar (and perhaps John Smith too) back to sort that one out. :erm:

[amateur51]

I meant 'Scottish' rather than 'British' - i.e. not involved in UK poltics/economics.

I agree that in a referendum on self-determination, only those who seek self-determination should vote. It would seem wrong for the more numerous English to vote, either to 'kick Scotland out' or to prevent them leaving.

I take your point but it might have been better if you had explicitly included the less numerous but no less legitimate Welsh and Northern Irish.

West Lothian question, anyone?

[amateur51]

You really ought to stick to things you know about.

Set an example then, why don't you?

[MrGongGong]

Set an example then, why don't you?

Ha ;-)

It's only a wind up you know
He doesn't really believe in the nonsense that Farago spouts

[aka Calum Da Jazbo]

I meant 'Scottish' rather than 'British' - i.e. not involved in UK poltics/economics.

I agree that in a referendum on self-determination, only those who seek self-determination should vote. It would seem wrong for the more numerous English to vote, either to 'kick Scotland out' or to prevent them leaving.

as i understood you; he sits for a Scottish seat, born and bred a Scot and that is the point really, there is no Scot at present who is not a Brit -- we must not confound Brit with the English eh?

[french frank]

as i understood you; he sits for a Scottish seat, born and bred a Scot and that is the point really, there is no Scot at present who is not a Brit -- we must not confound Brit with the English eh?

No, but that's why I put 'Scottish' and 'British' in quotes. It was a shorthand which would have lost its usefulness if I'd then explained exactly why I put it in quotes.

But, to be clear: I meant a Scottish economist who was, broadly speaking, in favour of Scottish independence, perhaps voicing the difficulties of an independent Scotland retaining the UK pound, instead of Mr Salmond outlining the multitudinous benefits to Scotland and the UK; and Mr Osborne outlining the impossibilities.

A certain beauty, in the concision and meaningfulness of ' '?

[aka Calum Da Jazbo]

and which is the unspeakable and which the inedible in that gruesome pairing....

[jean]

...the difficulties of an independent Scotland retaining the UK pound...

How the Irish managed it is what I want to know.

[Beef Oven!]

He doesn't really believe in the nonsense that Farago spouts

Damo Farago & Nige Suzuki walked into Ikea and bought Russian, Turkish and Chinese kitchenware, cutlery and beer glasses. But no Jamaican bananas, you need a treaty for that, signed in Switzerland! Can I come to planet OTO and look around with you, Mr Chips!!!???

[teamsaint]

meanwhile,in the real world, businesses and individuals buy the things they want. Governments mostly ensure that this can happen , because it is in their interest to.. The banks run England in a way that the Scots might if they are lucky, just might be able to escape. Alex Salmond won't be for ever.
And big government is bad news wherever and whoever you are. And the bigger it is, the worse news it is.

Perhaps the English politicians are just a little worried about what and English and Welsh public, who are sick of being dumped on and their living standards eroded, might make of this.

[jean]

Doesn't anyone know the answer to my question?

[MrGongGong]

How the Irish managed it is what I want to know.

The Irish don't have it
they didn't have it before the Euro either

[french frank]

How the Irish managed it is what I want to know.

History of the Irish punt.