Flooding

[ahinton]

Damage limitation?

In the sense that Silvester does the former and UKIP tries to undertake the latter in respect thereof, probably, yes...

[Beef Oven!]

Indeed. I am quite clear in my own mind that climate change has nothing to do with religion generally or with equal marriage in particular.

If Mr Silvester or anyone else has any scientific evidence to the contrary, I am prepared to consider it on its merits, of course.

I don't think it's about what he's saying, more about his right to express his view. If he is breaking the law, then he must be taken to task. If not, we'll just have to take it or leave it. I'll need a bit more than this to be coaxed out of my agnosticism.

[amateur51]

I don't think it's about what he's saying, more about his right to express his view. If he is breaking the law, then he must be taken to task. If not, we'll just have to take it or leave it. I'll need a bit more than this to be coaxed out of my agnosticism.

How do you separate the content from his right to say it? If it's provocative and objectively wrong, then I have a right to say so.

For example, I'd want to know what evidence he has for the apparent correlation between climate change and the onset of equal marriage. If his evidence doesn't satisfy me, then I'm entitled to call his insistence on the link foolish and provocative.

[Beef Oven!]

How do you separate the content from his right to say it? If it's provocative and objectively wrong, then I have a right to say so.

For example, I'd want to know what evidence he has for the apparent correclation between climate change and the onset of equal marriage. If his evidence doesn't satisfy me, then I'm entitled to call his insistence on the link foolish and provocative.

No one disputes any of that.

[amateur51]

No one disputes any of that.

I'd rather you just spoke for yourself

[ahinton]

I'd rather you just spoke for yourself

To be fair to BO! he seems not to dispute it himself nor be aware of anyone else who does.

Perhaps Mr Silvester ought in the meantime to give due consideraton to the possibility that at least one of the contributions to the effects of climate change is the hot air generated by people like him...

[MrGongGong]

Three cheers for UKIP, for once again being the defenders of free-speech and democracy.

One may not subscribe to the teachings of religious books such as the Koran, Talmud or the Bible, but we should respect other people's right to believe, and not try to ridicule or silence them.

Three cheers for the deluded twats then (Laugh so much i've wet myself)

If it's time to "unchain" the brain I think you have had the kipper one for long enough
it's time to pass it on to the next buffoon

[amateur51]

To be fair to BO! he seems not to dispute it himself nor be aware of anyone else who does.

This is a reference to previous posters' (Pee, scotty, Simon) tactic of blowing themselves up like a startled cat or a pufferfish and achieving tremendous proportions, e.g., "we think"- "many on here believe" - " most people assume". Oxo's "no one" hit the same nerve - how does he know? Hence my entreaty.

[ahinton]

This is a reference to previous posters' (Pee, scotty, Simon) tactic of blowing themselves up like a startled cat or a pufferfish and achieving tremendous proportions, e.g., "we think"- "many on here believe" - " most people assume". Oxo's "no one" hit the same nerve - how does he know? Hence my entreaty.

OK; I see.

Anyway, it seems now that UKIP's support of free speech and democracy has prompted it to suspend Mr Silvester - see http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-25802437 - and BBC states also that

"Earlier, Mr Farage had told the Sun on Sunday that "about five" of the 13 MEPs elected for UKIP in 2009 would not stand again.

"Some have been pushed and some have jumped," he explained."

[MrGongGong]

There's nothing wrong with people believing in all sorts of nonsense
but we really shouldn't allow them to be scissor monitor

The kippers have an obsession with freedom to say what you like
which is fine
but they also sometimes think that we should allow them to decide important things

personally I trust none of em

[ahinton]

There's nothing wrong with people believing in all sorts of nonsense
but we really shouldn't allow them to be scissor monitor

The kippers have an obsession with freedom to say what you like
which is fine
but they also sometimes think that we should allow them to decide important things

personally I trust none of em

It seems from the latest in this pre-1 April saga that Mr Farage himself doesn't trust some of 'em either (he doesn't by chance have a daughter called Nigella, does he? - after all, it's not entirely unknown for a politican called Nigel to do that)...

[MrGongGong]

It seems from the latest in this pre-1 April saga that Mr Farage himself doesn't trust some of 'em either (he doesn't by chance have a daughter called Nigella, does he? - after all, it's not entirely unknown for a politican called Nigel to do that)...

:laugh:

IMV

ANYONE who decides that they want to participate in politics should be regarded with a great deal of suspicion
(unlike those who embrace the chaos and become composers, of course !)

[Serial_Apologist]

:laugh:

IMV

ANYONE who decides that they want to participate in politics should be regarded with a great deal of suspicion
(unlike those who embrace the chaos and become composers, of course !)

Well you can order musical pitches into tone rows (for example), because pitches don't have personalities, (though some might disagree) - whereas organising people into orderly queues is more and more difficult, these days.

[MrGongGong]

Well you can order musical pitches into tone rows (for example), because pitches don't have personalities, (though some might disagree) - whereas organising people into orderly queues is more and more difficult, these days.

aaah

"note based music" ......... how quaint

(winky smileything)

[Beef Oven!]

I'd rather you just spoke for yourself

It's just a term or phrase. You seem very prickly. Best we don't interact.