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  • LeMartinPecheur
    Full Member
    • Apr 2007
    • 4717

    #31
    Originally posted by Petrushka View Post
    I agree with EA here. Quite why this is an item of news is beyond me. It's yet another example of the mind-numbing celebrity culture that pervades the media and all on this forum should be avoiding. I'm completely indifferent to what or who this young man is or may or may not do. It's a free country (I hope), let him get on with it.
    Ummm, isn't there an argument that the fact of a medal-winning sportsman who grabbed the wider public's attention (however briefly) coming out, and being brave enough to go public himself without any media 'exposure', just might make some anti-gays reconsider their position? As in Not a matter of sinful choice, but just being made that way? Not exactly 'normal', but not so very unusual either?

    It may be tempting to hope for one decisive change in public attitude like a bombshell at some crisis-moment, but isn't slow, unspectacular, gradual erosion of error just as important?
    I keep hitting the Escape key, but I'm still here!

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    • Karafan
      Full Member
      • Nov 2010
      • 786

      #32
      Originally posted by Stunsworth View Post
      From the title of this part of the forum "Platform 3 The place to talk about anything".

      For what it's worth I hope Daley and his partner are very happy together.
      Me too.

      Though I note, with disbelief and distaste in equal measure, the Mirror's reference to his "emotional confession" and the dreaded Mail (in its lurid coverage of Paul Flowers) branding him as "openly gay". The blood just bubbles away at boiling point....
      "Let me have my own way in exactly everything, and a sunnier and more pleasant creature does not exist." Thomas Carlyle

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      • Barbirollians
        Full Member
        • Nov 2010
        • 11711

        #33
        There is a depressing element of the please don't mention this in public about suggesting this story is not news.

        What was he "confessing" for crying out loud ? Being true to himself ? What a singularly inappropriate noun to use .

        Best of luck to him .

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        • jayne lee wilson
          Banned
          • Jul 2011
          • 10711

          #34
          Those who consider this an "inappropriate" topic for Platform 3 - the news that dare not speak its name, perhaps - should consider whether, if a 25-year old high-profile Premiership footballer came out, the intelligent folk who assemble here to discuss music and items of general cultural interest (or...cooking) should choose to ignore it...

          Art for art's sake is wonderful - essential, even - but it has its limitations...

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          • Stillhomewardbound
            Full Member
            • Nov 2010
            • 1109

            #35
            Folk on here will know that I am rarely short of something to say, but on this occasion, all I can do is wish Tom the very, very best of luck, and pray that the media will allow the two of us to get on with our lives together!!

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            • Hornspieler
              Late Member
              • Sep 2012
              • 1847

              #36
              Originally posted by Eine Alpensinfonie View Post
              Britten and Pears were classical musicians, and therefore relevant to this forum. Tom Daley isn't. I hope this isn't yet another attempt to skew the forum towards a particular pet topic.
              :ok:

              Quite right, EA, and professional musicians take no account or show any bias for or against those in their midst whose sexual preferences are any different from there own.

              Over the last two weeks, there have been 4 very fine live orchestral concerts.

              So take a look at the "Performance" thread.

              Nothing! And yet a thread returning to the old theme of Homophobia; started only yesterday, has already produced in excess of 30 posts.

              Football, Rugby, Cricket, Horse Racing, Meteorology, Refreshments?

              What have any of those topics to do with a Radio station devoted to Music and the Arts?

              Friends of Radio 3? I would welcome some evidence to suggest that some members even know where to find it on their radios.

              :yawn:

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              • Hornspieler
                Late Member
                • Sep 2012
                • 1847

                #37
                Originally posted by french frank View Post
                [My immediate reaction to Dave's thread was to the suggestion that the forum should be 'rebranded'. It's either 'branded' as the Radio 3 Forum or it has no reason to exist. There is free software available for those who want their own non-R3 forum, but that, as far as I could see, accounted for the decline of r3ok - it started as a popular off-shoot of the BBC messageboards but became a general social forum with no obvious purpose or focus except the people who chose to post there.]
                My very point, FF.

                I am very much aware that the happenings at Radio 3 which are (or should be) of concern to all the members of this forum, are being pushed into the background by these totally unrelated topics.

                Well, you're the Boss.

                HS:rolleyes:

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                • Hornspieler
                  Late Member
                  • Sep 2012
                  • 1847

                  #38
                  Originally posted by Petrushka View Post
                  I agree with EA here. Quite why this is an item of news is beyond me. It's yet another example of the mind-numbing celebrity culture that pervades the media and all on this forum should be avoiding. I'm completely indifferent to what or who this young man is or may or may not do. It's a free country (I hope), let him get on with it.
                  Agreed.

                  Perhaps the title of this thread could be amended by removing the words "in love".

                  There is nothing wrong with establishing a commited relationship with another person. Such a liaison may or may not include physical activity, but that is nobody else's concern and nor should it be.

                  Mr Daley announced that he had entered into a partnership with another man (so let's call it a "committed companionship").

                  That was all he said. Those who wish to draw other inferences from that statement are, IMV, totally out of order.

                  HS

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                  • Sir Velo
                    Full Member
                    • Oct 2012
                    • 3235

                    #39
                    Originally posted by Hornspieler View Post
                    Mr Daley announced that he had entered into a partnership with another man (so let's call it a "committed companionship").

                    That was all he said. Those who wish to draw other inferences from that statement are, IMV, totally out of order.

                    HS
                    Like Britten and Pears eh? Im not at all interested in Daley and his lovelife, but lets not go back to the fifties. :erm:

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                    • teamsaint
                      Full Member
                      • Nov 2010
                      • 25211

                      #40
                      not relevant?
                      Gergiev?

                      we are interconnected.

                      actually, the music that connects us on this forum is the KIND of music that R3 broadcasts (or ought to broadcast ). And as Aeolium pointed out, music can't exist in a vacuum.

                      The way in which we discuss this music tends to be around the CD/record versions, for the practical reason that its mush easier to discuss these versions that are around long term, rather than radio broadcasts which are around for a week.

                      It is a shame if a good live concert broadcast goes undiscussed, but there are good reasons for this.
                      I will not be pushed, filed, stamped, indexed, briefed, debriefed or numbered. My life is my own.

                      I am not a number, I am a free man.

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                      • Stillhomewardbound
                        Full Member
                        • Nov 2010
                        • 1109

                        #41
                        Originally posted by Hornspieler View Post
                        (so let's call it a "committed companionship")
                        Oh, let's not. That's too close to the Archbishop of Westminster's line ... "It is a mistake to say, or think, or presume that if two people of the same (or different) sexes enjoy a deep and lasting friendship then they must be sexually involved."

                        It doesn't need to be called anything. Always was evident in his very sincere video, he's fallen for a guy and why should be need to grasp for not-quite-the-real-thing terminology.

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                        • amateur51

                          #42
                          Originally posted by Stillhomewardbound View Post
                          Folk on here will know that I am rarely short of something to say, but on this occasion, all I can do is wish Tom the very, very best of luck, and pray that the media will allow the two of us to get on with our lives together!!
                          Lovely, shb! :laugh:

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                          • amateur51

                            #43
                            Originally posted by Hornspieler View Post
                            Agreed.

                            Perhaps the title of this thread could be amended by removing the words "in love".

                            There is nothing wrong with establishing a commited relationship with another person. Such a liaison may or may not include physical activity, but that is nobody else's concern and nor should it be.

                            Mr Daley announced that he had entered into a partnership with another man (so let's call it a "committed companionship").

                            That was all he said. Those who wish to draw other inferences from that statement are, IMV, totally out of order.

                            HS
                            He did rather more than that, Hornspieler and your brief dismissal suggests to me that you didn't watch the youtube link, which is a shame.

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                            • Hornspieler
                              Late Member
                              • Sep 2012
                              • 1847

                              #44
                              Originally posted by amateur51 View Post
                              He did rather more than that, Hornspieler and your brief dismissal suggests to me that you didn't watch the youtube link, which is a shame.
                              And unfortunately you are determined not to let the matter rest, which is an even greater shame.:yawn:

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                              • amateur51

                                #45
                                Originally posted by Hornspieler View Post
                                And unfortunately you are determined not to let the matter rest, which is an even greater shame.:yawn:
                                Let's stay on-topic please.I'm responding to you, and apparently you just want to have the last word - i'm offering you that opportunity.

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