Tom Daley's In Love ...

[Thropplenoggin]

Britten and Pears were classical musicians, and therefore relevant to this forum. Tom Daley isn't. I hope this isn't yet another attempt to skew the forum towards a particular pet topic.

I concur with EA on this occasion, which also brings to mind Dave2002's new thread: http://www.for3.org/forums/showthrea...m-be-rebranded

Which subjects aren't to be discussed on FoR3?

[Stanfordian]

I'm not 100% sure who he is, but I watched the youtube clip and was most impressed. Brave sentiments and put over with charm and confidence. Assuming he's some sort of sportsman, let's hope that it's a footballer next. (The statement, "Of course I still fancy girls" sounded a little confusing - but I suppose he's still confused himself.)

Daley's sexuality has been the subject of rumour for some years. It's shame that in these times that anyone has to 'come out'. I pray for the day that we are not judged for being what we are.

[Barbirollians]

This surely goes to a much more general issue namely why are people so interested in celebrity's private lives and whether it is important to know about them ? It seems to me that in the creative arts it is potentially much more important than say in sport.

In the creative arts it raises particular issues about appreciation of the works of musicians etc . How important was Britten's sexuality to an understanding of his works for example ? It does not relate only to sexuality of course - all manner of other life experiences influence creative works - Suk's Asrael symphony for example or Dvorak's interpolation of the Josefina theme in the finale of his Cello Concerto , Bruckner's faith etc

[Barbirollians]

Daley's sexuality has been the subject of rumour for some years. It's shame that in these times that anyone has to 'come out'. I pray for the day that we are not judged for being what we are.

Yes let's hope that in 20 years say it is simply not news .

[french frank]

I concur with EA on this occasion, which also brings to mind Dave2002's new thread: http://www.for3.org/forums/showthrea...m-be-rebranded

Which subjects aren't to be discussed on FoR3?

[My immediate reaction to Dave's thread was to the suggestion that the forum should be 'rebranded'. It's either 'branded' as the Radio 3 Forum or it has no reason to exist. There is free software available for those who want their own non-R3 forum, but that, as far as I could see, accounted for the decline of r3ok - it started as a popular off-shoot of the BBC messageboards but became a general social forum with no obvious purpose or focus except the people who chose to post there.]

[Thropplenoggin]

[My immediate reaction to Dave's thread was to the suggestion that the forum should be 'rebranded'. It's either 'branded' as the Radio 3 Forum or it has no reason to exist. There is free software available for those who want their own non-R3 forum, but that, as far as I could see, accounted for the decline of r3ok - it started as a popular off-shoot of the BBC messageboards but became a general social forum with no obvious purpose or focus except the people who chose to post there.]

Here was my reaction.

[amateur51]

Britten and Pears were classical musicians, and therefore relevant to this forum. Tom Daley isn't. I hope this isn't yet another attempt to skew the forum towards a particular pet topic.

My original post is clearly nothing to do with an attempt to skew the forum towards a particular pet topic.

How later posts take the thread foward is surely an issue of tight hosting :whistle:

[Stunsworth]

Britten and Pears were classical musicians, and therefore relevant to this forum. Tom Daley isn't. I hope this isn't yet another attempt to skew the forum towards a particular pet topic.

From the title of this part of the forum "Platform 3 The place to talk about anything".

For what it's worth I hope Daley and his partner are very happy together.

[Nick Armstrong]

I doubt it was simply the case as Caliban suggests that a newspaper had become aware that he was in a relationship with another man .There is a possibility his hand was forced. Generally , nowadays Article 8 ECHR stops newspapers printing stories about a person's sexuality as it is considered to be part of their private life and confidential and publication even if one is in the public eye is regarded as an actionable breach of confidence .

The main principle being what is in the public interest is not the same as what is interesting to the public . It appears he was quoted as denying he was gay in September in a newspaper and that may have enabled a newspaper to argue exposing dishonesty and hypocrisy as being in the public interest .If that were the case he may have decided to spike their guns.

I think we are saying the same thing Barb. Despite Article 8, newspapers will always have a go and will argue that a particular revelation isn't in breach of Art 8 e.g. for the reasons you suggest in your para 2. I think that probably was happening behind the scenes

In his case , I imagine , however a court would have been very sympathetic notwithstanding to a request for an injunction and not considered exposing his private life as justified .

That may very well be, but what I'm saying is that there was probably a (wise, I think) tactical decision not to go down the risky and expensive road to Injunctionsville, but - as you say - to spike the press's guns by breaking the story in the way TD did.

[teamsaint]

Good luck to Daley, its a very important issue.

Its a pity that just a little of the BBCs radio news coverage today couldn't have been used on this case as well.

http://www.for3.org/forums/showthread.php?9982-In-her-best-interests

Perhaps it was, and I missed it.

[Flosshilde]

I concur with EA on this occasion, which also brings to mind Dave2002's new thread: http://www.for3.org/forums/showthrea...m-be-rebranded

Which subjects aren't to be discussed on FoR3?

Is this item of news any less relevant to the Board than, say, the favoured date for decking one's halls with boughs of holly?

[french frank]

Is this item of news any less relevant to the Board than, say, the favoured date for decking one's halls with boughs of holly?

I'm letting this run, but the clue is in the words 'item of news'.

[Barbirollians]

I think we are saying the same thing Barb. Despite Article 8, newspapers will always have a go and will argue that a particular revelation isn't in breach of Art 8 e.g. for the reasons you suggest in your para 2. I think that probably was happening behind the scenes



That may very well be, but what I'm saying is that there was probably a (wise, I think) tactical decision not to go down the risky and expensive road to Injunctionsville, but - as you say - to spike the press's guns by breaking the story in the way TD did.

Indeed, I would not be at all surprised if that was not the judgment call that he and his advisers made . That if a newspaper was threatening to do this that it wasn't worth trying to spike it .

I hope that it is otherwise and he just finally decided he had had enough of speculation and was happy and confident enough to do it .

[Petrushka]

Britten and Pears were classical musicians, and therefore relevant to this forum. Tom Daley isn't. I hope this isn't yet another attempt to skew the forum towards a particular pet topic.

I agree with EA here. Quite why this is an item of news is beyond me. It's yet another example of the mind-numbing celebrity culture that pervades the media and all on this forum should be avoiding. I'm completely indifferent to what or who this young man is or may or may not do. It's a free country (I hope), let him get on with it.

[Barbirollians]

I agree with EA here. Quite why this is an item of news is beyond me. It's yet another example of the mind-numbing celebrity culture that pervades the media and all on this forum should be avoiding. I'm completely indifferent to what or who this young man is or may or may not do. It's a free country (I hope), let him get on with it.

He is a Olympic medal winning sportsman who was a child prodigy- not a manufactured celebrity with no other skill than trying to be famous.

The point I think is that this shouldn't be an item of news but it is .