Poppies and the "Heroes Industry" ?

[MrGongGong]

Actually, MrGG, the title of the thread is "Poppies and the Heroes Industry"!

Anyway, yes, there's even a petition being run to have him released, which is surely about as absurd as it gets and I've not looked it up but undesand that it's already attracted at least 30,000 signatures. Some "hero"!

That's what I meant
Once you have been deemed to be a "hero" , which seems as simple as putting on the right costume
then you can, apparently, do no wrong.

[Beef Oven!]

To return to the title of the thread.
It's "interesting" to note how much coverage there is in some media of support for this man.
Even on the BBC news last night there was an interview with a friend of his , contrast that with the coverage of other high profile convicted murderers.

Yeah, too true matey. And what about Lee Rigby's murderers pleading not guilty!!!? I bet you're going mad about it.

Since this sort of thing's your bag, I'm gonna let you go first and vent your spleen about it. Let me know when your done, and then I'll have a go. ;-)

[MrGongGong]

Yeah, too true matey. And what about Lee Rigby's murderers pleading not guilty!!!?

I don't see any campaign in support of them do you ?
I always thought that the law should be applied equally
but realise that this doesn't seem to apply to "our lads"
I'm not mad about people pleading one way or the other, I would be if they were given the kind of leniency that many demand for mr marine.

There is a world of difference between unstable and deluded people committing murder and a murder committed by a UK soldier. BUT the result is the same, dead people where there should be none.
Some comments today have suggested that we should withdraw from the Geneva convention.


on reflection is your quoted comment an entry for "non sequitur of the day" ?

[Beef Oven!]

I don't see any campaign in support of them do you ?
I always thought that the law should be applied equally
but realise that this doesn't seem to apply to "our lads"
I'm not mad about people pleading one way or the other, I would be if they were given the kind of leniency that many demand for mr marine.

There is a world of difference between unstable and deluded people committing murder and a murder committed by a UK soldier. BUT the result is the same, dead people where there should be none.
Some comments today have suggested that we should withdraw from the Geneva convention.


on reflection is your quoted comment an entry for "non sequitur of the day" ?

But you normally get all excited about this sort of thing!?

[MrGongGong]

But you normally get all excited about this sort of thing!?

Its not "exciting" just sad and avoidable

[Flosshilde]

what about Lee Rigby's murderers pleading not guilty!!!?

What about it? At the moment they are allowed to plead whatever they like. Their plea might disagree with yours or the Sun's views of their guilt, but you are not their judge or their jury.

[Mr Pee]

Actually, MrGG, the title of the thread is "Poppies and the Heroes Industry"!

Anyway, yes, there's even a petition being run to have him released, which is surely about as absurd as it gets and I've not looked it up but undesand that it's already attracted at least 30,000 signatures. Some "hero"!

Can you provide a link to that petition? I'd be most grateful.

[Beef Oven!]

What about it? At the moment they are allowed to plead whatever they like. Their plea might disagree with yours or the Sun's views of their guilt, but you are not their judge or their jury.

You read the Sun!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Shame on you.

[Beef Oven!]

Can you provide a link to that petition? I'd be most grateful.

Took the words right outta my mouth!

[MrGongGong]

Can you provide a link to that petition? I'd be most grateful.

I think there's one for Ian Huntley as well if you are so keen on getting murderers released
though I guess he isn't "one of our lads" so not the "best in the world"

[Beef Oven!]

I think there's one for Ian Huntley as well if you are so keen on getting murderers released
though I guess he isn't "one of our lads" so not the "best in the world"

That was my point, to you, earlier MrGG!

[Mr Pee]

A poll on the Huffington Post website shows that 53.8% consider that Sgt.Blackman has been treated too harshly, and 46.2% consider that he has been treated fairly:-

http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2013/12/07/marine-a-petition_n_4404885.html

Which, if nothing else, shows what an alternative universe most contributors here seem to live in.

And here's a link to the petition, for those who wish to add their names to the tens of thousands who have already registered:-

http://epetitions.direct.gov.uk/petitions/56810

[MrGongGong]

A poll on the Huffington Post website shows that 53.8% consider that Sgt.Blackman has been treated too harshly, and 46.2% consider that he has been treated fairly:-

http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2013/12/07/marine-a-petition_n_4404885.html

Which, if nothing else, shows what an alternative universe some contributors here seem to live in.

Indeed

Just shows how much stupidity there is in the world

[amateur51]

Sgt. Blackman was tried by a court martial made up of experienced soldiers who, it is clear, took account of the issues raiserd by his would-be defenders here and elsewhere.

Given that the court heard all the evidence presented for each side, and the board members who would sign this petition and other would-be defenders have not, what precisely would be the grounds for reducing his sentence?

I presented a summary of the court's findings in post #400 in case that helps.

[teamsaint]

quote from the Court Martial Judge.

Sentencing Blackman, Judge Advocate General Jeff Blackett said the commando had betrayed the armed services.

"You treated that Afghan man with contempt and murdered him in cold blood," the judge said.