Poppies and the "Heroes Industry" ?

[amateur51]

6,000 and rising steadily on the Telegraph's petition.

Of course it's quite possible that a counter-petition as suggested by FF would raise as many, and possibly more, signatories. We all know that lefties love nothing more than mustering the mob when it comes to matters like this.

Shame on an often sensible newspaper like the Torygraph for organising such a petition, for the reasons I have already given.

However I'm delighted to see that the number of its readers who have responded is so pitifully small.

[amateur51]

I'm seeing a professional about my self-absorption, victim syndrome arrogance etc. Do you want me to PM you his number?

He'd really help you with your passive-aggressive issues - it's origin, pathology and treatment etc.

As I have demonstrated to you several times, I am aware of these phenomena in both myself and yourself, I just don't go on about it as much as you do. You've obviously only just started working on these issues - good luck!

[french frank]

Of course it's quite possible that a counter-petition as suggested by FF would raise as many, and possibly more, signatories. We all know that lefties love nothing more than mustering the mob when it comes to matters like this.

But on this occasion they seem to be holding back so far and leaving it to the opposition. In fact the message from the lefties seems to be - leave it to the court to decide on the sentence and don't interfere. To start a petition arguing that some sort of maximum sentence should be passed, even supposing anyone held that view, would be equally interfering.

I suspect the argument of 'us cultural Marxists' is that 'when it comes to matters like this', petitions are at the very least totally inappropriate; at worst quite wrong.

[Beef Oven!]

As I have demonstrated to you several times, I am aware of these phenomena in both myself and yourself, I just don't go on about it as much as you do. You've obviously only just started working on these issues - good luck!

Thanks! Lol!

[Beef Oven!]

"I don't need to wear a poppy and beat my breast in public like this author; nor do I need to be told by an officious HR pimply person to stand for 2 minutes silence over the Tannoy at work. I will happily continue to contribute to the British Legion appeal, but feel no need to parade my virtue with a tacky and shabby bit of red cardboard on my lapel."

GG, we all know you're "yer own man'', and your response to authority is tantamount to Keith moon's response to his GP, but it never hurt anyone to just 'get in line' now and again!!!

[ahinton]

GG, we all know you're "yer own man'', and your response to authority is tantamount to Keith moon's response to his GP, but it never hurt anyone to just 'get in line' now and again!!!

In what "line", created by whom and for what specific purpose? (you almost make it sound like a queue, even if that is not your intention). In the context concerned, would you not agree and accept that it is each individual's right to remember those who died on active service in or as victims of wars in the particular way/s that he/she chooses?

[Beef Oven!]

In what "line", created by whom and for what specific purpose? (you almost make it sound like a queue, even if that is not your intention). In the context concerned, would you not agree and accept that it is each individual's right to remember those who died on active service in or as victims of wars in the particular way/s that he/she chooses?

There is no queue.

Outside of the context, would you not agree that the relative difference in air speed between the African Gulley Finch and the Asian Gulley Finch is of no consequence?

[ahinton]

There is no queue.

Outside of the context, would you not agree that the relative difference in air speed between the African Gulley Finch and the Asian Gulley Finch is of no consequence?

I would not, since I have no clue whatsoever about the subject one way or another and I was trying in any case to stick to the context in any case - but you've neither divulged what it is that you meant by getting in line, as I asked you (namely what "line", created by whom and for what specific purpose) nor responded to my question as to whether or not you would agree and accept that it is each individual's right to remember those who died on active service in or as victims of wars in the particular way/s that he/she chooses?

[Beef Oven!]

I would not, since I have no clue whatsoever about the subject one way or another and I was trying in any case to stick to the context in any case - but you've neither divulged what it is that you meant by getting in line, as I asked you (namely what "line", created by whom and for what specific purpose) nor responded to my question as to whether or not you would agree and accept that it is each individual's right to remember those who died on active service in or as victims of wars in the particular way/s that he/she chooses?

Your question was so loaded that I exercised my right, under the Human Rights Industry, not to answer leading questions of the kind that could be asked in prisons or police cells in countries that don't spring to mind during discussions about democracy or golf.

[MrGongGong]

GG, we all know you're "yer own man'', and your response to authority is tantamount to Keith moon's response to his GP, but it never hurt anyone to just 'get in line' now and again!!!

Just to be clear
Those aren't my words
I'm quoting from the Torygraph
I think I had better go and lie down now :Yikes:


fast and bulbous innit

[ahinton]

Your question was so loaded

With what? It was in fact very simple and straightforward and "loaded" with nothing more than the hope of a straight answer!

that I exercised my right, under the Human Rights Industry

Don't you mean the Human Rights Act? (for all that it strikes me as rather over the top to invoke in in the present context)...

not to answer leading questions of the kind that could be asked in prisons or police cells in countries that don't spring to mind during discussions about democracy or golf.

Well, it was a question about something that you wrote, so its origin is effectively with you but, rather more importantly, I cannot imagine that such a statement as yours or such a question as mine to be "of the kind that could be asked in prisons or police cells" anywhere, frankly!

[Beef Oven!]

fast and bulbous innit

.........and tapered too.

[Mr Pee]

What do you suppose that "supporting one's country" (assuming that one has one one such to "support") actually means, with particular reference to the apparent perceived difference between it and "supporting one's government"? Just curious!

The very fact that you need to ask such a question renders any answer I might give completely pointless; if you are unable to differentiate between Country and Government then you are truly beyond help. <D'Oh!>

[MrGongGong]

The very fact that you need to ask such a question renders any answer I might give completely pointless; if you are unable to differentiate between Country and Government then you are truly beyond help. <D'Oh!>

That sums something up nicely doesn't it !
It seemed a perfectly simple question to me which should be fairly straightforward to answer (and there would be , I imagine , many answers) but all the peester can come up with is a "can you guess what i'm thinking" statement with the assumption that if you can't there's something wrong with the person asking the question.

Here's the perfect present for mr pee

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[ahinton]

The very fact that you need to ask such a question renders any answer I might give completely pointless; if you are unable to differentiate between Country and Government then you are truly beyond help. <D'Oh!>

Being well able to "differentiate" them - which of course I am - does not of itself account for what it means to "support one's country" as distinct from "supporting one's country's government". In a country where democratic elections take place, one may endeavour to "support" one's country by voting for a political party that fields candidates in a General Election in the hope that said party will go to form the next government; likewise, one chooses not to support one's country's government by similarly endeavouring to vote it out at the next one and/or to lobby and/or otherwise protest against its actions during the time that it remains in office. How one "supports one's country" separately from that is what I'm really asking you. I'm quite sure that you can make a success of providing a "pointless" answer without any encouragement from me, but that fact does not preclude me from hoping for one that makes a serious point.

In any case, I am rather surprised that it seems not to have occured to you that the nature and content of a question cannot in and of itself render any answer to it pointless or indeed otherwise influence the nature and content of such an answer, so your statement here seems not only unnecessary and irrelevant but also illogical.