Are you ashamed about China's wooing by Bambi and Thumper?

[aka Calum Da Jazbo]

I don't know about you, but I am ashamed.

but Hutton gives the game away, Bambi wants his City chums to play with rennimbi ..... just so

[eighthobstruction]

I don't do shame....I'm more heavily into indignation....

[Anna]

To be honest, and at the risk of being called a Little Englander who dislikes Johnny Foreigner (or worse, being a member of the Kippers) I would actually like to be able to buy products which say 'Made in England/UK/Britain' rather than 'Made in China' I wish that we were once again a nation that manufactured not consumed. (Of course, some of my best friends are Chinese)

[ahinton]

To be honest, and at the risk of being called a Little Englander who dislikes Johnny Foreigner (or worse, being a member of the Kippers) I would actually like to be able to buy products which say 'Made in England/UK/Britain' rather than 'Made in China' I wish that we were once again a nation that manufactured not consumed. (Of course, some of my best friends are Chinese)

The risk that one of the most distinguished of Ladies of Powys might be called an "Englander" of any size, le alone a "little" one, is surely as vanishingly small as it should be?

[Serial_Apologist]

To be honest, and at the risk of being called a Little Englander who dislikes Johnny Foreigner (or worse, being a member of the Kippers) I would actually like to be able to buy products which say 'Made in England/UK/Britain' rather than 'Made in China' I wish that we were once again a nation that manufactured not consumed. (Of course, some of my best friends are Chinese)

Then we must support any demands for better wages and conditions, or rights to join trade unions, made by sweatshop workers making the imported products, as revealed by Pilger, if we are not rightly to be denounced as "little Englanders" or people who might welsh <wink> on our less privilieged brothers and sisters in the so-called developing world.

[Anna]

Then we must support any demands for better wages and conditions, or rights to join trade unions, made by sweatshop workers making the imported products

But how do we do this? (do you have a link to the Pilger) Boycotting such shops as Primark, etc., who have been implicated won't make a jot of difference. Also, I was very surprised when I was in M&S recently (not a shop I usually frequent) on picking up a jumper and finding it was made in Cambodia - can one assume a company such as M&S will not be involved in sweatshop labour?
(I didn't buy the jumper, it was very poor quality for the price of £30)

[Serial_Apologist]

But how do we do this? (do you have a link to the Pilger) Boycotting such shops as Primark, etc., who have been implicated won't make a jot of difference. Also, I was very surprised when I was in M&S recently (not a shop I usually frequent) on picking up a jumper and finding it was made in Cambodia - can one assume a company such as M&S will not be involved in sweatshop labour?
(I didn't buy the jumper, it was very poor quality for the price of £30)

Good to find this on utube - 11 years on, but if anything probably even truer today than in 2001.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v3WbztsqScw

Judging by what you report maybe it's not surprising that M&S is in trouble again, Anna.

[Anna]

Good to find this on utube - 11 years on, but if anything probably even truer today than in 2001.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v3WbztsqScw

Judging by what you report maybe it's not surprising that M&S is in trouble again, Anna.

Thanks S_A, I see it's nearly an hour long - will watch it when I have more time.
Don't know about M&S as I haven't bought regularly from them for years - but I do know from friends who do shop there that they consider the quality isn't what it used to be.
(and didn't Paxman complain about their y-fronts?) ;-)

[Mr Pee]

Don't know about M&S as I haven't bought regularly from them for years - but I do know from friends who do shop there that they consider the quality isn't what it used to be.
(and didn't Paxman complain about their y-fronts?) ;-)

Ooh, but their food is first-class. Makes Waitrose look second-rate.