A Study of AUNT

[amateur51]

Unlike you, I haven't read Archer's book (what a surprise), but I'd be amazed if he makes any reference to Bishop Ussher.

Humour is not your strong suit, I'd forgotten

[ahinton]

I always look for the best in people. Sometimes however it is very well hidden.

Indeded. Sometimes it can be a very tough call and require copious inspection...

[An_Inspector_Calls]

2. Human beings have evolved to make more of their lives than the business of choosing a mate and reproducing. The purpose of employment, in the human world, is not about finding a mate and reproducing.

Which made me recall a work colleague remarking that the only reason she came to work was for the sexual harassment . . .

[scottycelt]

Scotty will not understand this statement, so profoundly has he internalised the Catholic doctrine of Original Sin and applied it to his own avatar. How he is able to distrust his own nature while not being able to distrust his own distrust is beyond me, but I don't think there's much point in trying to persuade him to the contrary.

Oh, I understand it only too well, S_A!

Whether one calls it Original Sin or just Temptation it is undoubtedly real unless yourself and Richard Barrett are quite beyond such human fallibilities (no doubt some bright spark will now ask what I mean by 'human fallibilities'!)

Mr Barrett looks for the best in people which is extremely generous of him. Of course by simply making that statement he is suggesting there is also some bad, or at least less good. Which is absolutely correct. Yet, like you, he obviously can't bring himself to actually say it!

There is no such thing as badness in people. It must all be the fault of the capitalist system and it's only capitalists who are bad, and working-class people and the comfy politically-motivated middle-class on the Left are as pure as the driven snow.

Do you actually believe all that pseudo-religious Marxist 'mumbo-jumbo' stuff, S_A ... ? :grin:

[Richard Barrett]

There is no such thing as badness in people.

Correct. There are bad (and good) things that people do.

[ahinton]

Whether one calls it Original Sin or just Temptation it is undoubtedly real unless yourself and Richard Barrett are quite beyond such human fallibilities (no doubt some bright spark will now ask what I mean by 'human fallibilities'!)

Mr Barrett looks for the best in people which is extremely generous of him. Of course by simply making that statement he is suggesting there is also some bad, or at least less good. Which is absolutely correct. Yet, like you, he obviously can't bring himself to actually say it!

There is no such thing as badness in people.

I never expected to see you admit to that, scotty but I'm pleased that you have done so! This puts a quite different perspective on your use of the term "evil" than that which we've frequently noted from you hereabouts in the past! I don't think that Mr Barrett needs to say what you claim him to be unable to bring himself to say when what he has said is already clear and comprehensive enough for the rest of us!

[teamsaint]

Scotty, what exactly do you mean by "Human fallibilities"?

Has it anything to do with goalkeeping?

[ahinton]

Scotty, what exactly do you mean by "Human fallibilities"?

Has it anything to do with goalkeeping?

TS, what exactly do you mean by "goalkeeping" and does it have any bearing either on the moving of goalposts or the scoring of own goals?

[teamsaint]

TS, what exactly do you mean by "goalkeeping" and does it have any bearing either on the moving of goalposts or the scoring of own goals?

I thought you were a Scottish person, AH? As such you should instinctively understand these matters.

but LOL anyway. mediumtohighknowinglaughsmileything.

[scottycelt]

Scotty, what exactly do you mean by "Human fallibilities"?

Has it anything to do with goalkeeping?

You mean Artur Boruc, team ... ? He seems to be doing okay for you these days, probably because he's not as fat as he used to be!

[ahinton]

I thought you were a Scottish person, AH? As such you should instinctively understand these matters.

Och, I am indeed, but that of itself disnae conferrrrr upon me the level of understanding of such matters as is foond in Castle scotty! Shostakovich would have had a Scottish slant on this though (Scotsakovich?), if the story is to be believed that, on the afternoon of the UK première of his Fourth Symphony in Enbro, he ducked out of rehearsals because Rangers were playing Celtic in some other wee Scawttish toon...

[scottycelt]

Och, I am indeed, but that of itself disnae conferrrrr upon me the level of understanding of such matters as is foond in Castle scotty! Shostakovich would have had a Scottish slant on this though (Scotsakovich?), if the story is to be believed that, on the afternoon of the UK première of his Fourth Symphony in Enbro, he ducked out of rehearsals because Rangers were playing Celtic in some other wee Scawttish toon...

Ahinton, forgive me, but for a supposedly proud Scot you don't half talk like an Englishman!

[scottycelt]

Correct. There are bad (and good) things that people do.

But 'badness' must itself exist before people are accused of doing 'bad' things? Same with 'good' minus the accusation.

Of course you may well now ask me what I mean by 'bad' and 'good'.

We could go around in circles like this all day but I suspect neither of us would think it particularly worth the effort?

[ahinton]

Ahinton, forgive me, but for a supposedly proud Scot you don't half talk like an Englishman!

Forgive you? For you know not what you do? OK - I'll try! Anyway, in my use of "disnae" I'd have expected that someone might suggest that I was talking more like a West Coast American than an Englishman...

[Richard Barrett]

But 'badness' must itself exist before people are accused of doing 'bad' things?

And why is that?