Originally posted by Mr Pee
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Sorry for the delay, I was having a life.
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In the context of this discussion, 'equality' is an desired end-result, an aim, a goal if you like; and seeking a level playing field is a means to achieving that goal etc.
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Very glad to hear that you had one. Hope you enjoyed it.Originally posted by amateur51 View PostPatriotism is supporting your country all the time, and your government when it deserves it.
Mark Twain.Comment
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Originally posted by ahinton View Post
I think so, but perhaps with some "Tutting", or similar.....I will not be pushed, filed, stamped, indexed, briefed, debriefed or numbered. My life is my own.
I am not a number, I am a free man.Comment
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I've always had the impression that you have a rather considerable life, ahintonOriginally posted by ahinton View PostComment
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That's really great.Originally posted by amateur51 View Post
Have you made any plans to possibly go and enjoy another life sometime in the near future, amsey? :winkeye:Comment
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As I don't believe in an after-life or reincarnation, each new day is a new start, scotty and greatly appreciated.Originally posted by scottycelt View PostComment
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I guess that the correctness or otherwise of such an impression might have to depend at least in part upon who's doing the considering(!)...Originally posted by amateur51 View PostComment
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Oh how I miss the emoticons at moments like this....<laugh> <laugh>Originally posted by scottycelt View PostPatriotism is supporting your country all the time, and your government when it deserves it.
Mark Twain.Comment
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Some people will laugh at almost anything - even a question, as in this case...Originally posted by Mr Pee View PostComment
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Well, maternity leave and paternity leave aren't usually allowed once children are more than a few months old, at most. And the original issue was scottycelt's contention that paternity leave should be as long as maternity leave for 'equality' to apply.Originally posted by An_Inspector_Calls View Post
That, of course, presumes that 'a mother' and 'a father' are necessarily 'equal' in the first place (are apples and pears 'equal'?). The money is not made available simply to 'women' and 'men' but to mothers of newly born children and fathers of newly born children. And it does appear that the availability of the benefit can be varied somewhat depending on which parent remains at home and which returns to work.
So the example of 'equality' which scottycelt chooses is not as straightforward as, for example, should British parents of black African origin have the same parental leave as white parents, where clearly parents should be treated equally regardless of the colour of their skin.
I cannot see why this should be thought of in terms of 'right wing views' and 'left wing views' on the subject. (Getting slightly back to the political leanings, or otherwise, of the BBC - the 'AUNT' in question).It isn't given us to know those rare moments when people are wide open and the lightest touch can wither or heal. A moment too late and we can never reach them any more in this world.Comment
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Eh? What on earth has a colour of a person's skin got to do with gender 'equality' and parental leave?!!Originally posted by french frank View Post
If 'equality' regarding parental leave is not straightforward ( i agree entirely with that!) why should it be any different regarding rates of pay?
A young woman can get pregnant and leave for a few months so she might be offered a lower salary to compensate the company in that not uncommon eventuality. If she does get pregnant she will be entitled to parental leave which is a superior offer to that of the father if he works in the same establishment.
That seems fair enough to me. The discrimination works both ways and is far more realistic and practical than a non-achievable, Alice-in-Wonderland 'equality'!Comment
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