Nairobi terrorist attack

[Guest]

I can't quite believe that nobody has as yet passed comment on the appalling terrorist atrocity in Nairobi.

[Mr Pee]

I can't quite believe that nobody has as yet passed comment on the appalling terrorist atrocity in Nairobi.

I am not sure there is anything to say.

[Resurrection Man]

GongGong and amateur51 are dickheads

[MrGongGong]

Three recent events.....Pakistan, Nairobi and now Nigeria. Cowards.

These events are terrible indeed
BUT
they are not the acts of "cowards"

[carol_fodor]

These events are terrible indeed
BUT
they are not the acts of "cowards"

if the opposite of cowardly is 'brave', are you implying that it's in some way brave to arm yourself with automatic rifles and grenades and murder defenceless civilians?

[MrGongGong]

if the opposite of cowardly is 'brave', are you implying that it's in some way brave to arm yourself with automatic rifles and grenades and murder defenceless civilians?

I'm not saying that there is anything at all positive in these despicable acts
BUT not being "cowardly" doesn't mean that I think it's "brave"
Its far to simplistic to trot out the "all violence we disagree with is the act of cowards" but violence (which can include the killing of equally innocent people) that we "agree" with is acceptable. This simple duality thinking is what can contribute to some dangerous people thinking that they have nothing to loose in pursuing their aims.

[Beef Oven!]

These events are terrible indeed
BUT
they are not the acts of "cowards"

Oh dear.

[MrGongGong]

Oh dear.

It's the wrong word
they are the acts of very unpleasant and dangerous people
but that's not the same as being cowardly

The problem is that the "with us or against us" faction are unable to see any other way of thinking :-(

So in maybe suggesting that "coward" is the wrong word it's (very very mistakenly) assumed that I might be suggesting that it's a good thing to do, when I would say entirely the opposite.
It's a bit tedious that some folk like to reduce everything down to two options ! and shows rather a gross lack of imagination

[Beef Oven!]

It's the wrong word
they are the acts of very unpleasant and dangerous people
but that's not the same as being cowardly

The problem is that the "with us or against us" faction are unable to see any other way of thinking :-(

So in maybe suggesting that "coward" is the wrong word it's (very very mistakenly) assumed that I might be suggesting that it's a good thing to do, when I would say entirely the opposite.
It's a bit tedious that some folk like to reduce everything down to two options ! and shows rather a gross lack of imagination

It's not about imagination.

[anotherbob]

I think it's reasonable to suggest that the premeditated murder and torture of innocent people might be described as a cowardly act.

[Mr Pee]

Good grief. Seeing that quote from Mr.GG has once again reminded me why I have chosen to ignore him.

What could be more cowardly than chucking grenades around a shopping centre and spraying children and other innocent parties with rounds from AK47s?

It's nothing to do with imagination, unless you wish to imagine yourself into an alternative reality.

Cowardly, despicable, and inhuman.

[teamsaint]

Good grief. Seeing that quote from Mr.GG has once again reminded me why I have chosen to ignore him.

What could be more cowardly than chucking grenades around a shopping centre and spraying children and other innocent parties with rounds from AK47s?

It's nothing to do with imagination, unless you wish to imagine yourself into an alternative reality.

Cowardly, despicable, and inhuman.

Yes.
Like so much government sponsored violence, the world over.

[MrGongGong]

Yes.
Like so much government sponsored violence, the world over.

indeed
but it's not worth trying to have a sensible discussion .............

Is it not cowardly to sit in a room in RAF Waddington using drones to attack people who you will never see, never know whether they are really the "baddies" or not etc ?

Which IS NOT to say that killing ANYONE is a good idea .......

[anotherbob]

indeed
but it's not worth trying to have a sensible discussion .............

Is it not cowardly to sit in a room in RAF Waddington using drones to attack people who you will never see, never know whether they are really the "baddies" or not etc ?

Which IS NOT to say that killing ANYONE is a good idea .......

I had been waiting for Dresden to be mentioned but maybe that's just my age.

[Beef Oven!]

Is it not cowardly to sit in a room in RAF Waddington using drones to attack people who you will never see, never know whether they are really the "baddies" or not etc ?

This seems to be quite irrelevant, at least from a logical point of view - I'm getting a whiff of 'two wrongs make a right' and a hint of 'socialismo obsoleto' (vintage 1980).