£60,000p/a Not that much....

[eighthobstruction]

I haven't got time at the moment to think about this, but I think it is a good opportunity to think about such a thing....and poverty/ materialism etc....I'll give it some thought during Sunday....

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-24184473

[scottycelt]

I haven't got time at the moment to think about this, but I think it is a good opportunity to think about such a thing....and poverty/ materialism etc....I'll give it some thought during Sunday....



http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-24184473

Most people would probably happily settle for half of 'not that much', as it's still above the national average salary.

I suppose everything's relative. To Ed Miliband & Co it won't seem that much and to a top banker or footballer it'll be something to be contemptuously thrown in the kids' piggy-bank.

I suppose £60,000 pa isn't stinking rich but it strikes me as being pretty 'well off'?

[amateur51]

Most people would probably happily settle for half of 'not that much', as it's still above the national average salary.

I suppose everything's relative. To Ed Miliband & Co it won't seem that much and to a top banker or footballer it'll be something to be contemptuously thrown in the kids' piggy-bank.

I suppose £60,000 pa isn't stinking rich but it strikes me as being pretty 'well off'?

Compared to living on disablility benefits or unemployment benefits or the state pension, half of it's a king's ransom

[aka Calum Da Jazbo]

£60,000? not in the roundings dear chap, not in the roundings

nothing beats the universal cry of the unfavoured sibling - he has more than me ..... greedy crying babies stealing our money eh

[eighthobstruction]

One might say....Freidrich Ebert Stiftung ....(in fact I can't say it)....

[Beef Oven!]

Compared to living on disablility benefits or unemployment benefits or the state pension, half of it's a king's ransom

Totally agree! It's all relative.

Good job we live in Britain, Johnny Foreigner can't buy CDs, wine and toddle off on summer holidays if he's disabled or doesn't have work!

Another half-full glass!!

Yer learnin' son!!!

[ahinton]

Totally agree! It's all relative.

Good job we live in Britain, Johnny Foreigner can't buy CDs, wine and toddle off on summer holidays if he's disabled or doesn't have work!

I think that most of us here live in England rather than this nebulous and possibly soon to be depleted Britain (the recently departed scotty, mangerton, Anna and a handful of others nobly excepted, of course). As a Scot, I may soon become "Johnny Foreigner" myself (although I don't think that the name "Johnny" would especially suit me) but I will not expect my CD buying or wine consuming habits to have to change as a consequence!

Another half-full glass!!

Of what? Wine? SINGLE MALT WHISKY??

[Dave2002]

Most people would probably happily settle for half of 'not that much', as it's still above the national average salary.

Probably depends where you live. Salary distributions - tend to be right skewed, so generally mean>median, and indeed that implies that more than half the people would prefer to have a mean salary. The remainder probably live in the south and could find it very hard to survive on that.

Working with figures this way also doesn't take into account the fact that many households have more than one source of income - more than one paid employee, and two or more may have to work in order to pay the bills, thus giving a sum possibly over £40k per household.

£30k in some parts of Scotland might allow for luxurious living, while in the South East living in a dog kennel might be possible.

[mean as in the statistical sense that is ...]

[teamsaint]

Probably depends where you live. Salary distributions - tend to be right skewed, so generally mean>median, and indeed that implies that more than half the people would prefer to have a mean salary. The remainder probably live in the south and could find it very hard to survive on that.

Working with figures this way also doesn't take into account the fact that many households have more than one source of income - more than one paid employee, and two or more may have to work in order to pay the bills, thus giving a sum possibly over £40k per household.

£30k in some parts of Scotland might allow for luxurious living, while in the South East living in a dog kennel might be possible.

[mean as in the statistical sense that is ...]

and to illustrate

http://www.landlordtoday.co.uk/news_features/Cheaper-to-live-in-Barcelona-and-commute-than-rent-in-London

[jean]

Probably depends where you live...

It also depends on whether you own your house outright.

If you are old enough to have bought when prices were reasonable, then even in the South East you could live well on £30,000.

[Beef Oven!]

I think that most of us here live in England rather than this nebulous and possibly soon to be depleted Britain (the recently departed scotty, mangerton, Anna and a handful of others nobly excepted, of course). As a Scot, I may soon become "Johnny Foreigner" myself (although I don't think that the name "Johnny" would especially suit me) but I will not expect my CD buying or wine consuming habits to have to change as a consequence!


Of what? Wine? SINGLE MALT WHISKY??

If Johnny doesn't suit, it'll have to be plain old Rubber.

I am 'coming out'. I don't care what people think - I prefer blended Whisk(e)y!!

[ahinton]

If Johnny doesn't suit, it'll have to be plain old Rubber.

"Rubber Foreigner"? Sorry - je ne comprends pas...

I am 'coming out'. I don't care what people think - I prefer blended Whisk(e)y!!

You're "coming out" in what as a consequence of this?...

[Beef Oven!]

[QUOTE=ahinton;351330]

If Johnny doesn't suit, it'll have to be plain old Rubber.[/quote
"Rubber Foreigner"? Sorry - je ne comprends pas...


You're "coming out" in what as a consequence of this?...

Tidy this post up please A. It looks horrible.

[Dave2002]

It also depends on whether you own your house outright.

If you are old enough to have bought when prices were reasonable, then even in the South East you could live well on £30,000.

£30k each, or as a household? Also depends whether the £30k is taxed or not - older people may not have to pay much tax. Working people could very easily "lose" to tax, council tax and transport costs to and from work. An added complication is that many older people in the SE, possibly retired, are subsidising younger family relatives who don't earn enough, and don't have anywhere affordable to live. The same may be true elsewhere, but perhaps to a lesser extent.

[ahinton]

Tidy this post up please A. It looks horrible.

As does yours for not dissimilar reasons, it would seem! But apologies - and done! It's amazing what a single judiciously placed closing square bracket can do...