Poor value pensions....

[Beef Oven!]

We have some very odd values in our society,and they aren't in direct proportion to vale added.
EG. Take a run of the mill £1m a year premier league player out of the league, and nobody would really notice. He doesn't add £1m (or whatever) of value. But (our out of kilter) society enables him to earn that.

!!???????????

Eh?

Wages are set by demand and supply, not by a moral values system!!!!!!!!!!!!

If enough people want to watch 22 men chasing an inflated bit of plastic around a field, someone will oblige, for a fee of course.

There's a lorra money in footie. There's more money in the Premiership than the Belgian league, and anyone playing here gets more than they would in Belgium.

[teamsaint]

that specific player really isn't adding £1m of value.
it might be fair to say that, for instance , Rooney DOES add £10m of value becuase people will pay extra to see him play, (or will pay to watch him on the telly).

In any case, the money in football is substantially to do with control of the media,rather than ticket income. Allow a completely free media, fees and players wages would collapse.

[MrGongGong]

Might have something to do with the fact that more immigrants came to the UK in 2010 than in any year in the last thousand years.................



And this.......


from Andrew Neather (Mr Neather was a speech writer who worked in Downing Street for Tony Blair and in the Home Office for Jack Straw and David Blunkett, in the early 2000s) .........


"The huge increases in migrants over the last decade were partly due to a politically motivated attempt by ministers to radically change the country and "rub the Right's nose in diversity", according to Andrew Neather, a former adviser to Tony Blair, Jack Straw and David Blunkett.

He said Labour's relaxation of controls was a deliberate plan to "open up the UK to mass migration" but that ministers were nervous and reluctant to discuss such a move publicly for fear it would alienate its "core working class vote".

As a result, the public argument for immigration concentrated instead on the economic benefits and need for more migrants.

Critics said the revelations showed a "conspiracy" within Government to impose mass immigration for "cynical" political reasons."



But MrGG, don't get bogged-down with immigration. People come to the UK, because it's great here, GET OVER IT!

The truth of these things is often very different from the reality

http://www.ipsos-mori.com/researchpublications/researcharchive/3188/Perceptions-are-not-reality-the-top-10-we-get-wrong.aspx

a "huge" increase could be from 1 to 2 (thats 100% more ........ scary and massive innit !)

(I find "More or less" available as a podcast most useful in these matters )

[Beef Oven!]

The truth of these things is often very different from the reality

What drugs you on!!!?

[MrGongGong]

What drugs you on!!!?

Cote de Rhone , courgettes & carrots sauteed in butter

why you ask ?
(no don't go there) :-)

[Beef Oven!]

Cote de Rhone , courgettes & carrots sauteed in butter

People get beaten up 'round my way for less than that!

[MrGongGong]

aaha


the word "assumed" seems to have vanished
so "assumed reality"

as you were ........

[Beef Oven!]

aaha


the word "assumed" seems to have vanished
so "assumed reality"

as you were ........

Can I call you a doughnut, or does that breach the House Rules? ;-)

[MrGongGong]

Can I call you a doughnut, or does that breach the House Rules? ;-)

On this occasion it's permissible
BUT
don't assume that it will always be so ........ ;-)

[Beef Oven!]

On this occasion it's permissible
BUT
don't assume that it will always be so ........ ;-)

Ad tempus concessa post tempus consetur denegata.......................... is what you mean guv?

[MrGongGong]

Sed hoc non dicunt, quod si non obtinuit LIBRO

(I think ,,,,,,,, but I wouldn't trust an online translation if I were you , any more than a kipper in a tie !)

[Beef Oven!]

Sed hoc non dicunt, quod si non obtinuit LIBRO

(I think ,,,,,,,, but I wouldn't trust an online translation if I were you , any more than a kipper in a tie !)

I bet you had a kipper tie back in the day!!

[MrGongGong]

I bet you had a kipper tie back in the day!!

I had one last week if you must know
at the Botanical Gardens in Birmingham
lovely it was, with a toasted teacake to go with it ...... Assam I think ?

[teamsaint]

Somewhat Ironically, this is just the sort of conversation only really open to those with the luxury of time that is provided by good pension provision.

Now,I must get on with some work, Quam Celerrime.

[ahinton]

Somewhat Ironically, this is just the sort of conversation only really open to those with the luxury of time that is provided by good pension provision.

Irt seems indeed to have descended into Poor Value Thread.