Poor value pensions....

[amateur51]

But actually there is an enormous amount of wealth around, more than enough for everyone to have a comfortable life in their old age, the problem being that this wealth is being sequestered by a decreasing number of people.

One reads frequently about people receiving an additional 'two million pounds' for their pension pots. Additional?!

Tis barmy.

[scottycelt]

It disnae matter ... we are all doooomed, ah tell yeese ...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UdyQd6Xks7A

[teamsaint]

It disnae matter ... we are all doooomed, ah tell yeese ...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UdyQd6Xks7A

watched about half an hour of that Scotty.
Interesting. Puts all the blame for everything on big government and reckless individuals.
I smell an " angle". No mention of corporate greed, tax avoidance, bank greed and under regulation, increasing wealth divides between rich and poor, etc etc.

(apologies if they feature later on !I bet they don't .)

[ahinton]

It disnae matter ... we are all doooomed, ah tell yeese ...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UdyQd6Xks7A

Scotty! Have you suddenly ceased to be a Catholic and turned into one of those Evangelicals? I'd never have believed such a thing possible!

[ahinton]

watched about half an hour of that Scotty.
Interesting. Puts all the blame for everything on big government and reckless individuals.
I smell an " angle". No mention of corporate greed, tax avoidance, bank greed and under regulation, increasing wealth divides between rich and poor, etc etc.

(apologies if they feature later on !I bet they don't .)

Indeed - and there are plenty of other factors either ignored or barely touched upon in what I've seen of it so far (which is admittedly only about half of what you have). My take on it so far is that, of those things that you mention above, all involve theft and/or administrative inadequacies and, if one also factors in global indebtedness and artificially inflated asset values, it looks ever increasingly likely that there may not in any case be all that much in terms of real monetary value to go around or even to steal, so the "crisis" of the kind that the film asks its viewers at the outset if they're prepared to take the plunge and address is vastly graver than it seeks to portray, to the extent that there might never be a solution at all.

[teamsaint]

Indeed - and there are plenty of other factors either ignored or barely touched upon in what I've seen of it so far (which is admittedly only about half of what you have). My take on it so far is that, of those things that you mention above, all involve theft and/or administrative inadequacies and, if one also factors in global indebtedness and artificially inflated asset values, it looks ever increasingly likely that there may not in any case be all that much in terms of real monetary value to go around or even to steal, so the "crisis" of the kind that the film asks its viewers at the outset if they're prepared to take the plunge and address is vastly graver than it seeks to portray, to the extent that there might never be a solution at all.

if there are to be solutions, and i think there are very deep rooted problems, then they cannot be solved by ignoring those other factors.

[ahinton]

if there are to be solutions, and i think there are very deep rooted problems, then they cannot be solved by ignoring those other factors.

Indeed not - but that doesn't necessarily of itself meant that there are viable and sustainable solutions even if all factors are duly taken into consideration...

[Serial_Apologist]

For an alternative view:

http://www.coppolacomment.blogspot.co.uk/2013/01/the-end-of-britain-not-yet.html

[Resurrection Man]

But actually there is an enormous amount of wealth around, more than enough for everyone to have a comfortable life in their old age, the problem being that this wealth is being sequestered by a decreasing number of people.

Have you actually stopped to think and do the maths on this? Mmmm? Yes, there are a number of uber-rich people in the world. Take their total net worth. Now divide it by the number of people on this planet. You can have my 6.5p willingly.

[Resurrection Man]

watched about half an hour of that Scotty.
Interesting. Puts all the blame for everything on big government and reckless individuals.
I smell an " angle". No mention of (some) corporate greed, (some) tax avoidance, (some) bank greed and (some) under regulation, (some) increasing wealth divides between rich and poor, etc etc.

(apologies if they feature later on !I bet they don't .)

Edited for factual accuracy.

[teamsaint]

Good link, S_A. Thanks.

Questions do need to be asked.
Why, for instance is PSBR still at the same very high levels when we are told how successful "Austerity" has been?

Why is there SO little discussion about QE?

[teamsaint]

Edited for factual accuracy.

you need to have a point, RM.

what is yours?

[amateur51]

Have you actually stopped to think and do the maths on this? Mmmm? Yes, there are a number of uber-rich people in the world. Take their total net worth. Now divide it by the number of people on this planet. You can have my 6.5p willingly.

Any evidence behind that 'calculation?'

Whereas ....

http://www.equalitytrust.org.uk/resources/infographic-income-inequality-uk

[MrGongGong]

you need to have a point, RM.

what is yours?

He used to go on about how self-employed folk who didn't have "business" bank accounts were somehow criminals but never really explained why ?
SO I think he might be a little pointless ?

[Resurrection Man]

Any evidence behind that 'calculation?'

Whereas ....

http://www.equalitytrust.org.uk/reso...-inequality-uk

Well, I am not as narrow-minded as you, clearly. I like to look at the population of the world. Are you suggesting that a tribesman in Mali is not worthy of wealth redistribution?