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[eighthobstruction]

This news Item and the 811 (at this moment) comments below it speak volumes about what the Tories intend to do with the people who live in the wonky shed beside the Big Society....http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-24104743

[MrGongGong]

This news Item and the 811 (at this moment) comments below it speak volumes about what the Tories intend to do with the people who live in the wonky shed beside the Big Society....http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-24104743

As predicated by the bard of Salford ?

Read the paper - humdrum
Henley Regatta - page one
Eat die - ho hum
Page three - big bum
Giving a lunatic a loaded gun
He walks - others run
Thirty dead - no fun
Foreigners feature as figures of fun
Do something destructive chum
Sit right down - write a letter to the Sun
Say... "Bring back hangin' for everyone"

The took my advice - they brought it back
National costume was all-over-black
There were corpses in the avenues and cul-de-sacs
Piled up neatly in six-man stacks
Hanging from the traffic lights and specially made racks
They'd hang you for incontinence and fiddling your tax
Failure to hang yourself justified the axe
A deedely dee, a deedely dum
Looks like they brought back hangin' for everyone
The novelty's gone - it's hell
This place is a - death cell
The constant clang of the funeral bells
Those who aren't hanging are hanging someone else
The peoples pay - the paper sells
It's plug ugly - sub-animal yells
Death is unsightly - death smells
Swingin' Britain - don't put me on
They're gonna bring back the rope for everyone

[eighthobstruction]

HOW are they getting on using the Law that we have got + some new ones they might create, to prosecute the riggers of LIBOR and such like....

[Mr Pee]

This news Item and the 811 (at this moment) comments below it speak volumes about what the Tories intend to do with the people who live in the wonky shed beside the Big Society....http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-24104743

Benefit fraudsters are criminals and should be treated as such. Ten years for the most serious cases sounds perfectly fair.

[MrGongGong]

Benefit fraudsters are criminals and should be treated as such. Ten years for the most serious cases sounds perfectly fair.

What about politicians who invade other countries ?
Or police who shoot innocent people ?

This seems like a knee jerk easy target to me
Yes , of course fraud is something that should be investigated and prosecuted

though I'd support the public hanging of cyclists who ride on the pavement

Given that there is "serious" fraud , surely there must be "frivolous" fraud as well ?

[amateur51]

Benefit fraudsters are criminals and should be treated as such. Ten years for the most serious cases sounds perfectly fair.

Tax evaders likewise, benefits fraud over-estimated in government and in certain aspects of the Press, the latter woefully under-estimated.

[eighthobstruction]

The point (if I have one) is the lop sided foul hooking of the poor (no matter ref criminality) while BIG FISH swim free....Tory energy is focused on the minnows....once again....

[MrGongGong]

The point (if I have one) is the lop sided foul hooking of the poor (no matter ref criminality) while BIG FISH swim free....

Careful that's (apparently) a "red herring" ..........

Many people who are in prison are simply following the capitalist way....... I remember talking to someone who was inside for drug dealing who's rationale was along the lines of....."if kids are going to do drugs anyway, why shouldn't I make money out of them ? It's not something that I would do but if people want to be that stupid i'm not going to stop them".....which seems very like much of our foreign policy with regard to arms sales...

[amateur51]

Careful that's (apparently) a "red herring" ..........

Many people who are in prison are simply following the capitalist way....... I remember talking to someone who was inside for drug dealing who's rationale was along the lines of....."if kids are going to do drugs anyway, why shouldn't I make money out of them ? It's not something that I would do but if people want to be that stupid i'm not going to stop them".....which seems very like much of our foreign policy with regard to arms sales...

Wasn't it Britain that first started flooding a culture with drugs as a trading strategy?

[french frank]

Benefit fraudsters are criminals and should be treated as such.

I think they should also be stripped of their honours.

[Mr Pee]

Careful that's (apparently) a "red herring" ..........

Many people who are in prison are simply following the capitalist way....... I remember talking to someone who was inside for drug dealing who's rationale was along the lines of....."if kids are going to do drugs anyway, why shouldn't I make money out of them ? It's not something that I would do but if people want to be that stupid i'm not going to stop them".....which seems very like much of our foreign policy with regard to arms sales...

Only in the weird and wacky mind of Mr.GG could some low-life drug dealer's feeble excuse for his disgusting activity be likened to the international arms trade.

It is at times like this that I really wonder what planet you are on, Mr Gong Gong. And that perhaps you have taken a few too many illegal substances yourself over the years....

[amateur51]

Only in the weird and wacky mind of Mr.GG could some low-life drug dealer's feeble excuse for his disgusting activity be likened to the international arms trade.

It is at times like this that I really wonder what planet you are on, Mr Gong Gong. And that perhaps you have taken a few too many illegal substances yourself over the years....

No chance of your having taken mind-expanding substances, eh Mr Pee?

I can see that ad on e-bay now ...

"Immaculate Brain for Sale

As new, box fresh

One careful owner"

[MrGongGong]

Only in the weird and wacky mind of Mr.GG could some low-life drug dealer's feeble excuse for his disgusting activity be likened to the international arms trade.

It is at times like this that I really wonder what planet you are on, Mr Gong Gong. And that perhaps you have taken a few too many illegal substances yourself over the years....

Peddling death for ones own financial benefit ?
seems a fair comparison to me...... actually selling drugs is far safer than selling weapons to dodgy regimes
BOTH are unethical IMV

Oh but I forgot , selling hawk jets to Suharto was an act of ethical peacemaking

[Beef Oven!]

What about politicians who invade other countries ?
Or police who shoot innocent people ?

This seems like a knee jerk easy target to me
Yes , of course fraud is something that should be investigated and prosecuted

though I'd support the public hanging of cyclists who ride on the pavement

Given that there is "serious" fraud , surely there must be "frivolous" fraud as well ?

But surely you can do better than the 'two wrongs make a right' argument.

[french frank]

Strangely, Keir Starmer seems to have made his reputation defending human rights cases.

Benefit fraud is theft, but 'theft' can be that of a pound or a million pounds. I wonder what level of benefit fraud or what circumstances would mean a prison sentence of ten years?