Sarah Teather MP throws in the towel

[zoomy]

Alistair Campbell tweet on Teather : "Sarah Teather - a looming lost seat dressed up as look-at-me 'principles.' Her voting record speaks louder than today's self-pitying whinge

[Serial_Apologist]

Alistair Campbell tweet on Teather : "Sarah Teather - a looming lost seat dressed up as look-at-me 'principles.' Her voting record speaks louder than today's self-pitying whinge

Surely not the Alister Campbell?

[amateur51]

Alistair Campbell tweet on Teather : "Sarah Teather - a looming lost seat dressed up as look-at-me 'principles.' Her voting record speaks louder than today's self-pitying whinge

I think a reference to a 'self-pitying whinge' is a bit strong coming from Alastair Campbell, who almost threw all his toys out of the pram in an interview with Jon Snow a few years back when he was trying to manage the news for Tony Blair..

[ahinton]

So that was an error of judgement, was it, rather than ST abandoning her principles to further her career? I think most neutral observers would disagree profoundly with your conclusion.

Oh, how tiresome this is! Am51 has tried hard to point out that what she did on that occasion - even to the extent that it might be seen, rightly or wrongly, as "abaonding her principles to further her career" - as an error of judgement - i.e. taking the action and a particularised interpretation thereof as part and parcel of the same thing - and all that you can do is try to separate these for the purpose of claiming that doing what you think she did was something other than the error of judgement that it so clearly was, as am51 has been only to open in admitting.

I'll bet my bottom dollar that if a Conservative had performed a similar career-driven U-turn on the issue of, shall we say, Gay Marriage, you'd be roundly lambasting them for abandoning their principles on these very boards.

Funny how forgiving you can be when it suits you.

I won't even bother to dignify that with any kind of response beyond noting that this is pretty low even by your standards, Mr Pee.

[zoomy]

Indeed the Alistair Campbell. I guess it takes it takes one whinger to recognise another.

[ahinton]

but unprincipled.

Are not errors of judgement sometimes unprincipled?

[amateur51]

It was a bit of a dead sheep lambast 51. I think you should try to put it stronger than that - she is an MP and MPs are there to vote, you know pass laws that affect the rest of us.

I apologise for not meeting your high standards, zoomy

[zoomy]

I think we should call a spade a spade, hinton - politicians are more than capable of finding their own weasel words.

[zoomy]

I apologise for not meeting your high standards, zoomy

I will let you off this time, 51 but please do try harder next time, this is the Radio Three militia elite forum after all.

[ahinton]

I think we should call a spade a spade, hinton - politicians are more than capable of finding their own weasel words.

Who are "we" here? Also, I am reminded of someone in south Devon, to which I'd moved when emigrating from my native Scotland as a child, responding to a comment about calling a spade a spade "well, down yerr, midear, we calls it a shovel"...

[ahinton]

I will let you off this time, 51 but please do try harder next time, this is the Radio Three militia elite forum after all.

If you are as unhappy here as your post above suggests, why do you not resign as a member? Just curious...

[zoomy]

I think a spade is different to a shovel, hinton - a spade is a spa... oh never mind. You carry on defending this nonentity of a politician then.

[ahinton]

I think a spade is different to a shovel, hinton - a spade is a spa... oh never mind. You carry on defending this nonentity of a politician then.

Ahinton to you. No, I don't mind. My comments are in any case more about your responses than about Ms Teather as a politician. As to nonentities, I can only assume that this is something on which you are an authority.