Unreasonable attacks

[amateur51]

Just think, amsey, where on earth would you and others here be without all those helpful links to Guardian articles supplied by so many lowdown journalists doing their improper jobs ... ?

He's only a Times journalist, he's only a Times journalist

[An_Inspector_Calls]

FF

In your #57 you reference this Independent article:

http://www.independent.co.uk/student/news/government-to-offer-more-sweeteners-to-maths-and-physics-grads-8799548.html

and later quote:
'they're 'struggling' in the first place to get school students to choose maths and physics at 6th form level and university'

well, that's not in that article so hence the confusion.

If you do not think there's a link between assessed teaching quality and the teaching profession then we'll have to differ.

Little in the heavily unionised conduct of the teaching profession helps in any way to helps me to reassess their professionalism.

And Alpen, I'm not suggesting teachers are responsible for the demise of O levels.

[french frank]

FF

In your #57 you reference this Independent article:

http://www.independent.co.uk/student/news/government-to-offer-more-sweeteners-to-maths-and-physics-grads-8799548.html

and later quote:
'they're 'struggling' in the first place to get school students to choose maths and physics at 6th form level and university'

well, that's not in that article so hence the confusion.

I think the implications are in the article (6th form, mentioned in the article, implies schools, so potential teachers aren't taking the subjects either in schools or in universities). I realise you took my single quotes as referring to the article itself, whereas I was quoting my previous post, so can see an opportunity for confusion there.

If you do not think there's a link between assessed teaching quality and the teaching profession then we'll have to differ.

I don't have any relevant thoughts on that to the extent that I have no idea whether teachers, in general, oppose performance assessment or of what such assessment might consist. During my own working life I have joined a union where that was expected but was seldom much of an enthusiast. In other circumstances, and in the newspaper industry it was closest, I might have been more active.

On the whole, though, I know nothing about the education system in schools (and little more about universities) other than what I read in the papers. I just hope that whoever dumped a small school bus outside my front door over the whole summer will move it soon.

[Eine Alpensinfonie]

I don't have any relevant thoughts on that to the extent that I have no idea whether teachers, in general, oppose performance assessment or of what such assessment might consist.

Teachers generally do accept Performance Management. It's payment by results that is so objectionable. This would only work in a society where everyone was equally intelligent and had equal social status and parental support.